I've mentioned a friend who worked as a reporter for one of the tabloids last year. He is one of the sources I get my information from, and as you know if you are a regular reader, I try to be as accurate as I can. He is a respected journalist who worked on our local newspaper for thirty years, and the book he's working on is based on notes he took during his tabloid work.
You may recall that that my journalist friend told me about a tabloid photographer creating a fake fan site in order to ingratiate himself with Jon (it worked.) The fake fan site was thought to be lost, but today my friend found it and sent me a link to it. For your viewing pleasure, here it is. Personally I find it pretty darned hilarious. Hope you enjoy it.
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Hilarius - It is!!! Thanks for sharing with us. I am thrilled that your journalist friend is writing the book -- it will be very successful!!!
I have read some links to the Reading Eagle on other blogs. For a local paper with local celebrities, I have been surprised with the lack of any indepth reporting on the Gosselins. Didn't Al Walentis get in trouble with his blog and all the negative Gosselin comments?
BTW, I applaud your friend for writing a book rather than giving this information to the tabloids. It's all about credibility. Everything you have disclosed from your friend makes perfect sense.
Thanks for the link to the "I love myself Jon Gosselin site". I used to feel sorry for the guy, but not anymore.
The filming has started as of yesterday. Radar has the pictures. Kate is dressed like a "regular" mom. Ha! The camera crew came bearing wrapped gifts---maybe some fake b-day party to film? Bribes? Who knows. Oh, and Kate has the kids working to help to clean up the garage. This woman does no housework, but they film her and the kids cleaning the garage. Let's see how many days they film those kids. Keep up the good work, paps, and document this crapfest.
I wouldn't be surprised if the both don't pay someone to make the big PRO sites. I wouldn't know any PRO sites, b/c I would never visit them!
Yes, GeorgiaMom, you got it. A blogger named Dana Hoffman posted a list of Gosselin freebies and Kate called the newspaper complaining that it was taking milk from the mouths of her babies. She also wouldn't do any more interviews unless the newspaper paid her. So the editors put a mandate out that there were to be no more Gosselin-related articles. That's all over now though and there are letters or articles about them in the paper. The articles are the same syndicated ones that are in other papers, and the letters are usually from locals that they are sick of hearing about the Gosselins and asking the paper to please stop mentioning them.
Ellena, you are so right about the pro Kate sites. I used to read at one, won't mention the name here, but it is a flog. It is backed by TLC and all the commenters are from Radar Online. They claim to have a huge following, but if you go through the comments, you will find approximately 15 regular commenters who will post 3 or 4 word replies and then come right back and do it again. Rinse, wash, repeat. If you dare to make a comment about Kate that is factual and has been proven so, they will rip you a new one. For instance, how they can possibly support her after hearing from her own mouth "Ghettoville" is beyond me. Yet, you know, she didn't really mean that. Right. I would be so offended if I lived in the area and she said that. It is a beautiful area, pastoral, and in the smack middle sits her over 1 million dollar property. I guess she has stars in her eyes now -- the Hollywood type. Never gonna happen Kate. Too many people can't stand her now.
Oh dear Dog. That's hilarious.
Ok, I thought there was some controversy. I can't imagine what Kate Gosselin could have said to make editors afraid of her. As usual, I bet she used the word "sue". Having worked in the industry, as long as you can back up with facts, editors should stand behind their reporters. Perhaps pressure came down from the publisher---I've seen that before. Sounds to me like Dana Hoffman did some fine reporting.
Just so you aren't blindsided, there is a blog under contruction dedicated to you! Small town social worker!
Links to be sent to all local PA news sources.
You crossed the line. Once the compliation is complete, link will be posted. Format very similar to what you have done here with the Gosselins.
Oops, I misunderstood. Dana was just a blogger and not a reporter? Then I guess I understand better if there was no fact check, but the newspaper should had followed up on what she was writing about. Regardless, she was right on target.
And it worked. How pathetic is that?
I guess you're right, Barbara, because look at the comment below yours from "anonymous."
GeorgiaMom, as far as I know Dana Hoffman was/is just a blogger. I could be wrong, and I don't know if she still works there or not. The paper had a huge layoff last year and I don't know if she was one of them. I don't know her or anything about her. I just know her name from the paper.
Barbara, you are wrong about one thing. We did not hear "ghettoville" from Kate's own mouth. That was something WG read in her friend's notes. We actually don't know who heard it? Maybe her friend heard it from someone else, like the game telephone. Kate may not have said it. I was uncomfortable with the gossip posted because it isn't first hand at all. Also, there is a strong motivation by the author to make things up as he is writing a book to sell. So we aren't sure.
I meant to add that I don't think this fake fan site is a funny or nice website at all. I think it is mean. I don't know how the paparazzi can stand themselves. I share WG's judgment from an earlier post that these guys are sharks.
Why is Werny Gal being targeted?
This blog is honest and not one-sided.
You fans just don't care about truth, just show me those KIDS!!!
Hi Mocha, the quote about Ghettoville came to my friend from a Gosselin neighbor. He didn't say who it was in his book and I didn't ask, but he is a respected journalist with 30 years experience and not one to make up stories. As far as I know he wasn't intending to write a book while he worked for the tabloid. He journaled as part of his job taking daily notes for the tabloid during the months of the most activity, and then later realized it amounted to a book and many people might find it interesting.
If we went by the principal of not believing any book that was written to sell, we wouldn't believe any books. But this guy wouldn't throw away his journalistic integrity just to sell books. There would be no reason for him to do that.
I think the fake Jon site is mean too. It's so over the top that it's hard to believe anyone would take it seriously. But apparently Jon did, because he became friends with the guy who made it.
I expect the fake site about me will be mean too. There is at least one other fake site online about another blogger who the diehard Kate fans dislike because they don't like her expressing her opinions about Kate. It's too bad they can't see it only makes Kate bad, because their defense of her is so unattractive and clearly bullying.
Well, since, Khate was only able to find about 10,000 people to read her fake book letters so far, the unauthorized tell all should be interesting to say the least.
Yes, the faker & shakers they are out in full force and ready~to~ rumble. Oh well. Let them. They only expose their own hypocrisy in the very words they type.
TGIF. Have a great weekend everyone.
Now let me get this straight. Someone, Anonymous, is threatening that there is going to be a website criticizing THIS little website?
If that is true, then people connected to Kate are certainly panicking. This website, although I have enjoyed it, is far from being something I would think a real STAR would be threatened by, that is, of course, IT WAS THE TRUTH.
I enjoy sharing my views with others that have the same, ie free speech, but would feel that STARS get used to opposing views.
If Kate was secure in herself, she wouldn't even be concerned with this. If, they do feel the need to attack it, makes you wonder what they are afraid of being TOLD!!!
Go Werney Gal!!!
I know Ellena, it's nuts isn't it? But that's what bullies do - they are cowards who pick on someone they feel they can get away with picking on. From what I've heard they hate Z too (blogger from the abaltimore Sun who has had the nerve to blog some posts that the Kate fanatics feel were anti-Kate,) but they won't pick on him they way they will independent bloggers.
I still think it's ironic because you'd think Kate lovers would stand for everything all-American: Freedom to have one's own thoughts and opinions and express them as long as it's not done abusively. But no. You have to agree with them or they say things like "You crossed the line." Of course there's also no explanation of what line was crossed because they don't assert themselves in a give-and-take conversation the way mature adults do. So it's impossible to have a mature discussion about whatever it is they're upset about this time.
Meanwhile the kids are back on TV again and it all distracts from serious discussion about the real issues. And maybe that's what they want.
Werny Gal
How is someone creating a site about you different from you creating a site about the Gosselins?
How is that bullying? If it is bullying aren't you bullying the Gosselins?
This is the first I have heard of this so called parody site. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, guess we'll have to wait and see.
By putting yourself out here with a blog you yourself become somewhat of a public figure yourself. Everyone believes the Gosselins are fair game because they put themselves out there. I guess the same could be said for you too.
I think the reason some people have a problem with your blog is because you are a neighbor and a family therapist.
I understand that you are entitled to your opinion just like everyone else but when you run a blog you leave yourself open to criticism also.
You mention Kate said Ghettoville on your blog and now certain people like Barbara above are saying well you heard it from her own mouth when in fact you heard from your friend who heard it from a neighbor. It may be true or may not be true the only one who knows for sure is this supposed neighbor and you are always going on about how she won't talk to her neighbors so it makes the comment very suspect. I mean she either talks to her neighbors or she doesn't. Which is it?
People have beliefs about small town America and when they see someone claiming to be a neighbor running a gossip site, it rubs some people the wrong way.
I'm thinking of setting up a fake blog for the fake blogsters and calling it "Small Town Social CLIMBERS"!They seem to get a lot of self-esteem from their imagined proximity to Kate,and even more from mounting their puny defensive attacks against anyone who disagrees.Maybe they will be rewarded by an invitation to tea at the McMansion, and it will be the high point of their lives...They can tell their children that they were actually in the same room as Princess Kate!
The truth is that almost all the excellent social programs that exist to advocate for kids, the poor,and disabled people in both our countries were started by Small Town Social Workers.Child Labour and Child Welfare laws were made by them.It's a badge to wear with pride.They can't diminish it with their craziness.
Unbelievable that you are being threatened. Unbelievable and ridiculous.
You must be doing something right to make them take such immature tactics.
Keep up the good work, WG!
WG,
Don't you think that by having a public blog that you open yourself up to the same treatment that other "public" figures endure?
You are revealing private info. If someone does go and research info on you and post pictures or video of someone standing in front of your house along with an interview, isn't that ok?
You are now public.
I am not the person posting that they are doing this. I am just saying.
I have read your blog for some time now. I am kind of in the middle about all of this Gosselin stuff. But I have to say, you are putting yourself out there and appear to be fair game.
Anon @ 9:46 am~ Are you in junior high? This whole "blog war" thing is getting absolutely ridiculous! Kate put herself out there and is making money off the backs of her children. There is no defending that! WG is not attacking Mother Theresa for heaven sake!
I am glad to hear that you are willing to have a mature conversation. I have a few questions. What does the size of this blog have to do with the issue being discussed? Does freedom of expression only apply to you? Is this blog how you show kindness? Was taking pictures of the children and then posting them on your website ethically and morally correct? Where is your line? How do you think your children, spouse, neighbors, etc. would feel about the fact that you run this blog?
Seems to me it's "Anonymous" who's crossing the line: The one called "harassment."
Check the ISP, Werny.
The thing that really bothers me is the whole attitude towards it, like you said Werney Gal. Although you speak the truth, you do not revel in it, nor tell it with some kind of glee, nor do it in a harassing and mean spirit. You simply tell your side of a story.
These Kate Culters, not only on this site but others, ATTACK others viciously for them simply speaking their opinion, I've had it happen to me; the first time it caught me off guard, they started calling me vicious names and snaking at me. I mean, VICIOUS!
Mature, grown up can have a conversation of opposing views; agree to disagree. These folks are rabid, cultish, people. They are scary only in the fact that they are the real haters. Their biggest fear is the truth.
I am looking forward to your next installment, and I hope it's a GOOD ONE!!!!! You have my attention.
I do not see any threats here. We are an open discussion about blogs and freedom of expression.
These Kate Culters, not only on this site but others, ATTACK others viciously for them simply speaking their opinion, I've had it happen to me; the first time it caught me off guard, they started calling me vicious names and snaking at me. I mean, VICIOUS!
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I'm with you Ellena. I tried posting at a pro-Kate blog for a few weeks but it was pointless and a waste of time. It was like standing in the lion's den and the lions were always hungry. lol
In my opinion, disagreeing does not have to mean animosity, but for some it seems to go hand in hand...
Anonymous, I didn't create a web site. I write a blog. Anyone can write a blog about anything they like. There are lots of blogs I disagree with. Here's an example.
http://www.spankingbethie.com/blog/
I don't send that blog writer nasty emails and leave nasty comments and create a bogus site to put them down or publicly shame them, like has been done to other Gosselin bloggers who aren't hardcore Kate fans and like I've been told is being done to me. That would be aggressive as well as socially inapporpriate. Instead, because it's not for me, I just don't go there.
I am not a public figure for writing a blog any more than you are for commenting on a blog. Z, who works for the Baltimore Sun, is a public figure because he works for a major newspaper so the expectation is that he is in the public eye. Because I have a unique perspective and am interested in this topic, I write a blog to inform and stimulate discussion, and you have a choice about joining that discussion or not. I am not choosing to be on magazine covers and DWTS. I just write a blog.
Anonymous, if you read the entry about the word Ghettoville you'll see exactly what I said. It's important to me to be clear and I work hard at it. When I discover I have made an error, I say so and go back and correct it. So no matter what anyone said, my words are there in black and white.
Sure, we are all open to criticism and that's a part of joining into a public discussion. That's no excuse for being rude, threatening, and bullying. It's okay to disagree but it's not okay to bully someone just because you disagree with them.
I believe very few people have a problem with my blog. Most commenters and emails are supportive. It seems the same few negative people come back and post again and again so it looks like more commenters than it actually is. Why they don't spend their time at blogs they like, instead of ones that annoy them, is a mystery.
Lisa, I have no idea what you are getting at about the size of this blog. How do you determine the size of a blog, and why would you want to? I rarely go to other blogs because I rarely have time. I just write a blog. No, of course freedom of expression doesn't only apply to me, but nastiness isn't freedom of expression. Taking pictures of people who are posing when they know their picture is being taken is fine. People do that all the time at the Gosselin house and the Gosselins do not have a problem with it. It is common for tourists to stand next to professional photographers and take pictures at the Gosselin house. If someone did that at my house or your house, it would be stalking and we could call the police and have them removed. (I personally think the photographer who snuck into the bushes and took the picture of Kate swatting the daughter was not fine because a boundary was crossed. He wasn't allowed there and he knew it. It doesn't excuse Kate swatting her daughter IMO, but it was still wrong.)
My friends and family know I run this blog and have no problem with it, other than that they find the whole topic boring. I've also made new friends thanks to this blog.
Thank you all for your comments. I am not here to convince anyone of anything. If you are unhappy here then I hope you are able to fine blogs you are happier with. This is what America is all about.
I made the comment about the size of the website/blog because someone commented that no one should be upset because your blog is small. I just did not understand it's relevance to the discussion.
I think that many people are not supportive of your blog, not just a few, as you claim. You justified you taking pictures of the children, by saying others were doing it. Just because it is common, does that make it right? Are you not exploiting the same children that you all claim to care about? Do you find your blog kind? Where do you draw your line?
Oh, for cripes sake. I find this blog very enjoyable, and not vicious or mean at all. My vote is for not even posting the silly, angry comments. There's no right to free speech on your blog. Block those crybabies out and ignore them.
You go, WG! ;)
I am sorry, a few more things that I forgot to mention. Isn't the intent of your blog to embarrass the Gosselins? Are you proud of this blog?
Lisa, why are you worrying about me exploiting the children by taking a couple of pictures when they are being exploited on national television and embarrassing images of them at all stages of their development will be available to everyone for the rest of their lives? And of course the point of my blog is not to embarrass the Gosselins. Unlike someone who would intentionally create a mimic site.
Thanks Robin, good idea. I've spent a lot of time tonight considering your comments and responding to them. Most of my readers know where I'm coming from and understand and support me. If it's not for you, no problem, go elsewhere.
I am trying to have a mature give and take discussion like you spoke about and it seems as if you are not interested.
Are you saying that you have no problem with contributing to the "exploitation of the children" because they are already being exploited?
You also say that it is not your intention to embarrass the Gosselins, what is the goal of your blog then? What do you wish to accomplish by having this blog?
I have been reading this blog for a few weeks now and all I have every seen written is "As far as I know" in front of everything you want to be true. You are writing personal information on "the internet" where anyone in the world can read it. Now you are back peddling saying little ole me is just blogging. You are commiting slander and that is a crime, its just a matter of time till you are exposed. Your getting a dose of your own medicene.
I'm with Robin.
FWIW:
I think Lisa is from sagewayexpress...a fan group that takes over the posts about Jon and Kate at ROL. The posts are extremely nasty over there - the worst I have ever seen (and I'm not just talking spelling and grammar). If Lisa is not part of the ROL posting group, many of her readers at SWE are.
The blog meddling and nastiness is ridiculous.
WG, This is exactly what they say to people who go to their flog or blog. If you don't like our blog, go elsewhere. Problem is, they live by a different standard. It's o.k. for them to locate every Gosselin blog out there and go there and then take the information back to their group. But no one else is allowed to do that. I've been around the blogs and forums for nearly 2 years, off and on. I have no problem at all taking days or even weeks away from it, but when I come back to just check on what's being said -- which hey, you Kate lovers, its a free country and we have as many rights as you do -- it's just the same old thing with them. Talking about how bad the haters are all the while they hate us so much you can see smoke coming from their flogs. It really gets funny after a while to see what nasty little comments they will make next.
I agree with you completely. If there are Kate fan sites out there, then we have as much right as they do to express our opinions at other sites. If they don't like it -- go away, just be sure to take Kate with you.
Have you ever, ever seen people dig their heels in so hard for someone they have never met and if they did she would spit on them? All of her neighbors in all of her neighborhoods and all of her family can't be wrong. The law of averages is just against it. Keep up the good work WG.
Barbara,
Not all of Kate's family have stopped supporting her. Her mom and one of her sisters have recently been regularly commenting their support of her.
Well, whatever it is the flogosphere is up to it is not going to change my opinion OR stop me. They can stomp on me all they want (& they have & they will) I will not relent. I have to say I hate what they are doing to others though worse. (Z, GWOP, 15 Min,etc) I hope they are exposed for what they are. And, I think the fact that they are very sloppy in how they follow around like roaches ready to eat the carcasses of anything that doesn't go along with their PR plan is gonna tell a big story someday & expose a really raunchy side of how far fame will make you go to get that fix.
I think the same thing all the time. If what I say is so damaging to the future career of Khate Gosselin, then what is wrong with her career choice?
Afterall, isn't this Khate a mom 1st? Don't her children come 1st and foremost. Nothing I have seen since the the Hawaii episode on their defunct reality show indicates to me this is a mom worried about the future of her children.
When I saw pictures of Paparazzi taking pictures of Figure 8 films putting a camera almost to the face of Joel Gosselin it really made me upset. How can these parents, the production company & TLC do this to those children?
Werny, I don't know what the answers are. I just wish they would relent and let the kids out of filming. It will probably not happen but am I so wrong for expressing my opinion in a media world that is heck bent on going along with filming these kids because it makes good money?
The bottom line. TLC wants to have the Monkey Munch both ways. I hope these 2 new shows are a failure because that is the only rainbow of hope I see for those 8 children.
Keep fighting the good fight. Nothing worth monkey munch comes easy.
And, remember Floggers never win & winners never flog
p.s. and I do believe at the end of the day there are no winners here in the Gosselin~spin~o~rama. The viewers, the film production, the Gosselin parents and the 8 children will forever be changed by this little 2 hour documentary that ended up with the complete corporate takeover of a family. And, it is exploitation of parents & children.
WG,
I am with Robin, Save the Children & Barbara. The Lisa & Anonymous posts add absolutely nothing to any intelligent discussion, IMO. They return to Sage's and post vicious,attacking posts about you.
The thing that I do find, well funny and interesting is that @ sage's blog 90% of these trolls posts are all about us and this admin. and the admin @ 15 min.
90% - That is remarkable.
On this blog & 15 min. the only time that the conversation revolves around these trolls is when they come here with their own false agenda. We don't spend any time posting about them but they are literally obsessed with posting about bloggers here and this site and admin. and 15 min. admin. Very strange behavior, IMO.
I call their agenda a false/fake one because they "pretend" to be jus' askin resonable questions. Not so much, as the bully behavior and hard core meaness that is evident in what they quickly turn around and post at Sage's after coming here.
They also consistently post with made up names, both here and at 15 min. I have come to believe that it is a waste of our time to attempt any interchange with such duplicitious people. I do hope that you will consider deleting them. They bring nothing in the way of civil honest discourse, IMO.
Love this blog!
These attacks are typical. These are women who were probably bullies in jr. high and high school. I say don't post these comments and let's just comment on the facts. I enjoy this blog very much. The Kate lover sites and Kate haters sites are too extreme with the name calling and cursing. Your blog is a breath of fresh air and I love the personal information. It's about time the truth comes out. Too sad for the ladies out there who idolize Kate, they have been scammed by TLC.
WG,
I fully support you and the reason for you blog which is to protect the children and try to stop this train wreck before it is too late.
Keep up the good work.
Post to follow via email! Hi Polly! :-)
Thanks for your comments everyone. I'll blog another entry if I have time later today and we can move on.
WG,
I started reading from the bottom up, realized the blog warring is all over the place here, and decided to skip every comment except yours! Thanks for responding to my comments.
I reread what I wrote and realize that I questioned your friend's integrity. I really don't believe he made anything up, but heard it from someone. I apologize for that. I only meant to correct the poster who "heard it from Kate's mouth." Actually, no one but an un-named neighbor heard it from Kate's mouth, and there is no way to be sure the neighbor isn't exaggerating. That it is easily believed says something about Kate's behavior though.
I wish I could share your admiration for your friend's journalistic integrity. Unfortunately, his work for a tabloid speaks against him. IMO, he's a shark, feeding off these kids' misery for money.
I hope we can still be friends. :)
I forgot another thing I wanted to say! Is there a blog or website against you WG? If there is I am all over that. Boy, that makes me steamed!
SMB, There is no proof whatever that those people are definitely her family. That came from Imperfect Women - a Kate love fest site.
You are so right Nancy. I haven't gone to the Sage site in a long time and never intend to go back. It oozes nastiness. They can't talk about Kate or whatever is currently going on with her, they go searching the blog world so they can go back and bash us to death -- all because we have the gall to post an opposing opinion. I personally know I am not trying to destroy Kate, her earning power or potential nor do I wish any physical harm to her or her family. I think the paps should leave her alone and let her shop for groceries in peace. I think that people who sneak on her property to snap photos are scum. My opinion is based on what I saw on the TV show. Not what some blogger on a Kate love fest site told me how they revised it to mean something quite different. I watched and listened to her. I don't give a flying fig if they want to discuss what I have to say at this or any other site. They have sad lives if that is their goal in life. And Nancy, you are so right in that they use a lot of made up names to invade groups and post very nasty comments. Then they accuse us of doing that very thing. I did post there in the beginning but was ripped a new one for disagreeing with them and have not been back. Their sanity is at stake. If all the Gosselin blogs and forums disappeared today I would be just fine. They, on the other hand, would collapse.
Yes, Werney Gal, let's move on. We've tried to be a reasonable group, and if some don't like it, tuff.
Re: "Anonymous" @ 8:34
"...all I have every seen written is "As far as I know" in front of everything you want to be true. You are writing personal information on "the internet" where anyone in the world can read it. Now you are back peddling saying little ole me is just blogging. You are commiting slander and that is a crime, its just a matter of time till you are exposed."
Okay, you need to brush up on the law before you start making threats out here....In order for Kate or John to sue for slander, they must show "actual malice" - that WG published with either knowledge of falsity or in reckless disregard for the truth. This is actually a very difficult standard for a plaintiff to meet...especially in regards to a blog.
WG has done nothing wrong here, and for you to hide under anonymity shows the bully that you are. Come out from under your rock and think before you start posting comments here that are threatening and bullying.
I support WG and this blog - and I admire her courage in even posting some of the comments.
WG
Thank you for a blog site that looks for the truth and makes the effort to be factual.
While I do not live in your area I have family that does. Mom in Reading and brothers in Pottstown. I became aware of the Gosselins before their TV show and all the national attention. My mother referred me to the articles in the Reading Eagle when the children were born. She and her friends were so concerned for this young couple. My point is that there ARE people that remember when this whole sad saga began. Actual local people who volunteered,gave generously of both time and money(my mother and her friends gave multiple times)and/or donated items to help this couple. The facts are there in black and white in all the articles the were written and continued to be documented in every "complete season"box set of video and every TV interview given.
This site had validity for me because WG is a local and the local community does not seems to be as polarized as the rest of the nation. Maybe,that's why Kate,Jon and TLC are sending out the paid interns to be antagonistic. I hope that a writer will research the facts,put all the pieces together an maybe then some of the children's childhood can be saved.
PS I recommend you stop accepting anonymous posts. If you believe what you post stand behind it with
your name. Own it!
WG,
I support your blog and totally agree with getting the truth out about the Gosselins. The naysayers have an invested interest in keeping the facade of the good ole Gosselins in the public eye, it keeps the money rolling in. I say ignore the nastiness and keep up your work.
WG - I agree with those that have said don't post the comments by the Lisa & Anonymous flogers....I support your blog and the fact that you are working to help the kids. Do the Lisa's of the world think that by attacking you and anyone who doesn't agree with their POV it will get them one step closer to Kate? They need to wake up and face reality - Kate wouldn't waste her time on them. Keep up the good work and I look forward to your next blog.
Katie Irene is snark-worthy for the simple fact that SHE has no problem trashing others. A televised, and mind-blowing, example of her TOTAL lack of regard for others would be the glib, cruel, and totally false comments made regarding how dirty the new house was. That house didn't materialize out of nowhere, and some of us who live in the area know the former owners. Wonderful people. Kate knows them too. There's no way a former OB-GYN nurse in our area couldn't. Not possible.
Also, sitting in the driveway of this HUGE property is nothing more than a planned photo op. To see this as anything but, is laughable. No need to accuse anyone of stalking. All Kate would have to do is snap her fingers, and a privacy fence would appear.
Sorry the trolls are causing trouble here.
As someone who only comments on the facts and tries to sort through the tabloid and PR bullsh_t these trolls are deeply disturbing to me.
Maybe being from MA, where 15yr old Phoebe Prince took her own life because of bullying (much of it cyber bullying) I'm being overly sensitive but I truly pity those that feel the need to bash people and create flogs to rip down others. I'll add them and their families to my prayers. They are deeply troubled human beings.
Just one more thought before we move on-
A reporter or blogger need not tell their sources.
As far as I have read, the opposing posters have not tried to explain what their differing point of view is, but only to threaten.
Opposing views great, simply putting down the author, childish.
Congratulate me,everybody, one of the pro-Kate-no-matter-what blogs thought that something I said was important enough for them to print! Was it one of my informational posts about child abuse laws? Noooo...Was it one of the posts where I showed some concern about the issues involved? Nooo....
It was one of my snarky posts, of course.
I read their whole blog and it looks to me like it's some sort of mutual self-pleasuring society,(is that polite enough?) which I was always told that a person should do in private..
It's not something I ever want to look at again!
Yes Mocha, when my friend started working for US Magazine I also wondered if he'd lost his integrity. But I talked with him all through the time he worked for them and he was very careful about reporting only the truth. His working for the magazine actually helped me feel better about the magazine. He did not write the articles in US. He'd send them the info and their editorial staff then took the info and crafted articles out of it. During the time he worked for them, he'd tell me things he'd found out and then the next week I'd read them in the magazine, and US did a good job of sticking to his reports. Believe me, if I didn't believe him I never would have printed anything of his here. But as I learned from this experience, sometimes the rags hire actual journalists. And the floggers sent me an email telling me they were building a web site about my blog. They've already done it to others they consider against Kate so it's no surprise. By speaking on behalf of Kate they are just reinforcing all the negative things that have already been said about her, which is a shame because her image could use improving.
You're right, Ellena, reporters don't have to give their sources. Some reporters have gone to jail rather than report their sources. If journalists didn't protect their source's confidentiality, no one would ever talk to them.
As many of you suggested I am no longer printing the recycled anon, Lisa, and related comments. Thanks and I hope to post a new entry soon.
I forgot to answer one unpublished comment, asking who my source was. I haven't actually asked him if I could name him, but he has been reading my blog and can comment if he wants to.
What always interests me is the fans talk about how horrible people are for trying to stifle Kate's ability to make a living, and be who she is; yet, at the same time, they want to shut down any discussion of her that isn't positive enough for them.
Her rights should never be infringed but our right to discuss should be shut down so her tender sensibilities aren't offended. Their very inability to see the conflict is amusing.
I get the impression Kate has a very, very thick skin and little, if any, self-awareness, and blog talk is not going to stop her on her quest for whatever she needs to make her happy.
Anyone who films 100+ episodes about their family and is on dozens of talk shows certainly knows she is fodder for comedians, the Soup, and yeah, bloggers.
All the negative stuff does is give her more to cry about and hope for more and more attention. She loves the attention - good and bad. Blog wars just add up to more hits for Kate, and that keeps the money rolling in - and that makes Kate very, very happy.
Anyone who buys the "I just want to bake cookies" spiel needs a reality check.
I have silently been reading on this blog for awhile now and must say that I truly enjoy all the posters and Werny Gal.
I like it here because unlike so many other blogs about the Gosselins, there seems to be alot of honesty and compassion for each other and of course the Gosselin children.
I am for the Gosselin children all the way. I have written every outlet, including all the former sponsors of J&K Plus Eight.
I have supported A Minor Consideration verbally and financially.
As a loving mother and grandmother of 5, my heart breaks for those children. They deserve so much more than their fame seeking, liar of a mother has ever given them.
I truly belive that Kate Gosselin will someday pay for all she put these children through.
Someday, somewhere, someone will finally bring her down and I for one will be happy to finally see the truth come out and this nightmare will end.
Anyway, I wanted to say that I truly enjoy your blog and hope you will continue in the future.
Hi WG. I just discovered your blog. I have taken the time to read through most of it, and I really enjoyed it. It's a different perspective, and one I don't find at all insulting to the Gosselins, just speaking what you know to be the truth, to the best of your info.
Good job, keep it up!!
On a side note; do you have any info on the marathon that Kate and her daughter ran in yesterday? (Besides of course, the video clip of seeing her bare all in that sports bra, when most others were in lose shirts).
Hi CanadianGal, no info on that race from local sources but maybe some of my other readers can fill you in. I've been busy gardening and doing other things in the lovely weather this weekend. Thanks for visiting.
I love Rosie O'Donnel, Chelsea Hanlder, Michael Moore . . .etc. Many people HATE them and their are sites bashing all of them. I've never been to one Rosie bashing site. I like her, I don't WANT to read bad stuff and I don't have the energy or passion to defend the lies.
It's not normal for people to be so invested in defending someone they don't know. I don't "like" the bashing of Rosie but I know it's there and I've never attempted to try and school the haters on how wrong they are for hating Rosie.
I respect their right to hate her.
I even respect their right to hate her SO MUCH that they have blogs about it and spread lies all over the internet but I don't participate.
Fighting for a celebrity that doesn't need it (or ask for it) is baffling to me.
Glad you have decided not to post troll comments. It's all about distraction from the truth with them----to divert the conversation, as they have successfully done here, from the facts. Now it's time to press on. Keep up the good work, WG.
In regards to the marathon run, if I thought Kate Gosselin believed in charity, I'd give her kudos for participating. But....I don't. Either it's for filming (ex. Ronald McDonald House) or shameless self-promotion. I'd be curious to know if the body guard was there too.
The pictures of her in the Nike outfit on errands and this marathon are most likely a PR response to the criticism of her thick waist and weight gain. She does nothing unless it pertains to image.
The reason people are attacking this blog is because the gravy trail seems to be OVER. There seems to be some very angry people that are mad because they are loosing money.
Oh, well.
@CanadianGal: Kate and Cara ran in a 5K fundraiser for the non-profit "Girls on the Run." These types of "fun-runs" are not primarily competitive like marathons and half-marathons. Some of the more serious runners run "for time," but most participate for the charity element of the event. I've run in similar 5K's for Race for the Cure, which, like "Girls on the Run," are held in cities all over the country throughout the year.
Kate's participation, no doubt, was her PR team's attempt to one-up Jon's recent fund-raisier for the team his brother coaches (I think it's a girl's soccer team).
Interestingly, last night ROL had a clip from the race clearly showing the Boobyguard running a few feet behind Kate (he was with Cara). Magically, that video has been replaced overnight (although the article is exactly the same) with a clip of Kate running with an unidentified woman.
All of this spin for the sake of Kate's image is really starting to make me dizzy.
Have a great week everyone. What will be will be. I would rather be the wrongest person in the room about it being bad for the Gosselin's to be under seige by TLC than support what is happening to the children.
There is nothing I can do at the end of the day except try.
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Hi Dekon,
I agree. I fault TLC and any network that is willing to destroy a family and denigrate humanitarian values for profit. I know that's a lofty statement, but when IS it a good time to say, ENOUGH! You can slam me left and right for feeling that way, but it's not going to change my beliefs. Greed is such a wasted quest. Fame, money, mean nothing. On the other hand, children are our most precious jewels, yet so many treat them as insignificant and squander their young lives away. Children have rights, but it's up to adults to make sure those rights are upheld, yet in so many ways we have failed miserably. Jon and Kate both have personal issues and TLC has taken advantage of and exploited these in any way they can to satisfy their need for ratings = sponsors = money. As long as we continue to expect no better from the media, that's what we'll get.
It seems to me like the ethics regarding making money vs personal integrity has degenerated more than ever since the onset of reality TV. The first reality TV show, starring the Louds almost 40 years ago, was quite shocking at the time because it was such an invasion of a family's privacy. Reality TV really took off in a huge way in the summer of 2007 because of the writers' strike. It was a way to create quick, cheap programming, and it's been downhill from there. TV executives don't get paid to weigh the psychological consequences of their programming. They get paid according to the bottom line.
JS, I agree with your comment, and thank you for your support.
One of the tabloids has reported that Kate had her assistant checking out schools in LA and for guest spots on sitcoms for the kids. I know tabloids are not the best source, but somehow, that just doesn't surprise me.
Itsaboutthekids Thanks. You know I still cannot & probably will never wrap my head around the complete corporate or should I say Korporate take over of this family.
Like the run this weekend for ex. Why for once couldn't Khate just run with her daughter alongside the whole way for a day with her daughter? The metaphor is striking she always runs ahead of the family at any cost then wants everyone to be in the same place she is no matter what. Sad commentary on motherhood.
Khate & Jon are blinded by the spotlight & yes the experiment on humans since the Loud family reality show that the consequences are just too big a price to pay especially for children.
Anyway, thanks Itsabouthekids.
WG, that's interesting about the writer's strike and how reality TV became such a force. Isn't the whole concept of reality TV based on the exploitation of real people? At least it seems that way to me. I guess adults can make that choice for themselves. It's when they drag the kids along with them that I have problems. Do you know what's happening with Rep. Murt now? I thought I heard that he was going to have a second hearing sometime soon.
Rep Murt did tell me about an upcoming hearing which would benefit the children of PA but it was on an issue unrelated to child labor laws.
WG, I understand the need to not post comments from these 'Khate fans', but interestingly, I have noticed something peculiar to ALL of them. In spite of my repeated requests from some of these supposed fans, not one of them has ever answered my question of what is it about Kate that they find compelling, that makes them believe she is a good mom, wife (ex now) relative, friend? Never has anyone given me a well thought out reply. Their replies are usually along the order of "she has 8 children, she is doing what she can to support them, she is so strong, she had to be the...blah,blah" you get the point.
Having said that, I don't think many, if any, of those women at the Sage Way are that interested in or supportive of Khate. Their only interest seems to be just talking about other blogs and/or Khate 'haterz'. Rarely do they speak of Kate or the kids, etc. Why? Do some people just enjoy arguing?
Carolina Gal, I think some women are living vicariously through Kate. It's their dream to be "discovered", catered to, make big bucks, independent from a man, etc. They are bored with their own lives, perhaps divorced and struggling or stay-at-home moms, and Kate is the fantasy.
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