TLC has announced more details about Kate's new show, Kate Plus 8, features Kate and the children and is described as a series of eight specials, debuting in June.* Kate's second show, Twist of Kate, in which fan letters to Kate are used to profile women facing personal challenges, will be shown in twelve episodes starting in late summer.
The implication with Twist of Kate is that American women are inspired by our good ole' everyday normal mom Kate. Our small town Kate's a regular gal just like the rest of us. Kind of like Jenny from the 'hood, only Kate is much more of a diva than Jennifer Lopez.
Suggested episode: Kate goes to the home of Martha Stewart and demonstrates how to bitch-slap domestic workers into submission. (This episode spawns a TLC special comprised solely of outtakes showing the two women rolling around in the chicken coop while tearing each other's bottle blonde hair out, after Martha has the audacity to try to show Kate how to open an oven door.)
TLC will also be airing Sarah Palin's Alaska. Perhaps TLC could get Kate and Sarah together for a hunting episode in which Sarah stalks moose while Kate hunts for that perfect man.
*Could airing this show as a series of specials rather than as a regular show be a way of getting around Jon's insistance that they not film the children?
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Jimmy Fallon did a great impersonation of Kate on DWTS. Check out the video.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2010/04/jimmy_fallon_mocks_kate_gossel.
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Well, I am not surprised about the show. They haven't been paying her for nothing. I really hope those kids aren't filmed again, but it appears TLC got its way with Jon. How can anyone admire Kate and believe this woman has struggled in the real world like they have? How many women out there have gotten divorced and have no financial worries? Her stripes can't be changed. TLC has been building up to this but it won't wash. Let her have her show. It's her last gasp at fame. Disgusting.
Anonymous, I with you 1000% LMAO
http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/04/08/will-you-watch-kate-gosselins-new-show/
GO VOTE! People.com is taking a poll on Kate's new show:
Yes, Kate and her kids make great TV
or
No, I'm not interested
NO 60% YES 40% so far with 19,433 votes.
Many negative comments. People are tired of her.
The more I think about it. They never finished season 5. Since Jon put the breaks on the show and stop it. Kate owes TLC some kind of footage of her or the family. Knowing how greedy she is. She probably expected them to pay her in advance for season 5. Since the divorce was coming up and the sham of the show was going no were.
I could be wrong about the advancement.
Ugh, I was hoping that TLC would sort of forget about Kate's new show...and now two of them? I just don't see what the fascination with her is about. She's a bitch and a cold-hearted person. Since when is this a role model? Rhetorical question, of course. ;-)
The first comment here has stopped me cold. Awful.
Note to mommyinca: I have deleted your comment and am posting the remainder of it here because unfortunately when I put personal info about myself out here, it comes back to me in droves of flames. So here is your comment with trhe personal stuff about me deleted:
mommyinca said...
What does it say about the parent if they have said to their children:
1. (when picking them up from the bus stop) "You'd still be standing here if it wasn't for me"
2. (regarding their Easter baskets) "Their shrieks of joy were all the thanks I needed"
and ...
3. (from her book) "I want them to know that all the sacrifices I made were worth it" (regarding the kids)
Kate seems to let the kids know how much she does for them an awful lot.
Also, how do you feel about Kate's new book? Her children's private struggles are sold in book form. How can this be justified or healthy in any way for these children?
(sorry, I'm just so disgusted by the way the media is putting Kate on a pedestal. What does it say to her children? Yep, kids, we agree that it's ok for your mom to sell your innermost struggles for a buck. You're privacy is worth no more than the cost of the book....(that's how it seems to me anyway :( )
Thu Apr 08, 06:00:00 PM PDT
IMO a lot of Kate's comments are self-centered and imply that she deserves a lot of credit/kudos/recognition/validation. She did it to Jon as well. I find it sad, abrasive and unpleasant to watch. She strikes me as very insecure, which seems to be what's underlying her controlling type of personality. Thus the link on the word "Kate" at the end of this entry. This is just my opinion but it's obviously shared by many others. Many of us have known people like that or even grown up with them and know how damaging being controlled that way can be. I don't think it's fair to anyone in that kind of person's universe, but especially not children because their personalities and self-esteems aren't fully formed and they are vulnerable to believing what their treatment implies about them.
Gee, it's hard for me to separate the personal from the professional. But you asked for my opinions and there they are.
Oh WG, I'm so sorry. I didn't think about the personal info :(
Thanks so much for your input.
I was talking to my DH regarding Kate tonight and he doesn't like to talk about her. I was trying to explain the new book coming out and trying to wrap my head around the fact that the media seems to be OK with Kate selling her kids innermost struggles. He is an intelligent man and while he hasn't paid much attention to what the media has to say about her, he formed his opinion about her the first time he saw their show back in season 1. He disagreed with the kids being on TV. We also talked about how we would never agree to a reality show because it's just so damaging to the kids (not that anyone's offered ;) )
Anyway...I'm rambling. Thanks for your input again :)
Thanks for commenting, everyone, and mommyinca, it's always nice to hear from you. My hubby and I feel that way too, and seeing how the Gosselins have imploded has only solidified our original views on it. Hubby is sick of hearing about the Gosselins. He hears about them at work all the time because certain employees know them or they have friends in common. (If you read back in my blog you'll see that I also know or have worked with people who have known Kate and met Jon.) Hubby doesn't even bring them up any more, and if I do he just rolls his eyes. But if I happen to mention a scoop he usually tells me he knew about it weeks ago. So the good news is I'm not married to a drama queen. The bad news is he never gives me the scoop. :)
Hello WG,
I should probably start by saying I was involved in the discussion about your Easter pics of the Gosselins. At the time I asked another poster about your blog. I then remembered that I read your welcome to the Gosselins. So I've been reading here for only a few days. Some of your posters are very insightful and witty but I have to say the only kind comments I have seen are for Jon. I admit that troubles me, while I am not a Kate Uber fan. I do feel the Hate Kate movement has become scary in it's intensity. You don't seem to have as much of that here, but you are supporting it with your links to some sites that do. I'm from a small town, we do seem to like our gossip don't we? So I do find some of your inside info amusing. My concern is the malicious gossip and attacks on the Gosselin family that I see growing more and more everyday. It makes me sad that the Gosselin children will google their names or their parent's and read awful, vile sick things. They did a t.v. show and they are being treated with more hate than many convicted felons. There are many Pro-Gosselin sites that debate and do not attack views of others. Take a look you may be pleasantly suprised. I'm new to blogging so I do hope this is not looked at as a blog and run. Whatever that is:)
Hi me again,
I won't become a stalker I promise. I just wanted to mention that the reason I personally have an issue with Z on TV. I am concerned because he is a journalist being paid to represent his newpaper and he is exploiting the hate movement for his own agenda. He has admited to getting much of his information from one woman. The things that are being written on his blog and Face Book are disgusting. He moderates and only seems to put up one side of the debate. That IMO is not an example of good journalism.
Hi and welcome back momsby. Although I'm not a fan of Kate and I do think Jon was a genuinely nice person who got in over his head (in the marriage, the show, etc.) and my humor can be snarky, this is not a hate site and I am not against anyone. I am interested in what's best for the children, so the blogs I link to are ones I feel advocate for them. Some of those bloggers, like 15 Minutes, can be opinionated, but I include them in my link list because I feel they are concerned with the best interest of the children. As this blog has become more popular I am having to delete more and more comments from folks who come here and make it personal instead of sticking to opinions. I'd love links to any blogs that you feel are fair. To me, fair means honest as well as being at least somewhat open to all sides.
I just love the "fans" that come to tell others how their opinions regarding a PUBLIC PERSONA are not valid, because they are not supporting of Kate. As usual, she is just a poor misunderstood single mother trying to support her eight children.
And I love how they've classified any anti-Kate discussion now as a "hate movement." What, do they think we have meetings, annual conferences, a secret handshake??? I have a right to dislike a public figure for whatever reason I choose, or for none at all.
How can they overlook the mainstream media, which at this point, is simply laughing at Kate? I have not read a single article that was not laced with sarcastic humor, given her current level of performance on DWTS, the soon-to-be released book detailing her childrens' PRIVATE struggles through the very worst time in their young lives, and now the idea of Kate "helping" other struggling mothers who've been INSPIRED (LOL) by her tale of woe.
From CNN to the Washington Post, all are quite obviously snickering at the thought. And of course, DWTS is laughing all the way to the bank! Too bad Kate doesn't see that it is at her expense.
I agree, member. It seems like Kate doesn't have many fans but those she does have are quite loyal. Thus my writing that she looked like Bette Davis in Whatever Happened To Baby Jane on DWTS is taken as Kate hate, whereas it was only my opinion that her dancing happened to suck that night. On the other hand, I've snarked about goofus things Jon did many times and I've never gotten a flame about hating Jon.
I agree about the media and Kate. Like I said in a recent blog post, we've gotten to confuse fame with infamy. TLC and others are still making money off her or this whole thing would end. And that can masquerade as adolation, but it's just more exploitation.
Momsby, who is Z on TV? Although my flamers seem to think all I do is drive by the Gosselins taking illegal pictures and surfing the Internet looking for juicy bits on them, I'm actually pretty out of the loop. I usually just know about major media things like DWTS, which I couldn't have missed knowing about if I'd been on the moon for the past five years.
Hi WG. Here's the link and info on Z. :)
About David Zurawik
I've been The Baltimore Sun's TV critic since 1989. My writings on TV and media have appeared in such publications as TV Guide, Esquire magazine and American Journalism Review. I have a Ph.D. in American Studies from the University of Maryland, College Park, and an M.A. in specialized reporting (on popular culture) from the University of Wisconsin. I'm the author of The Jews of Prime Time (Brandeis University Press), a look at 50 years of Jewish characters and identity on network TV. I have also been with WYPR-FM (88.1) radio since 1994 and can be heard Thursday mornings at 7:30 doing a weekly "Take on Television" report.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/
I think Z on Tv is not so much the problem over there as that one particular poster. She is a bit ridiculous and gives this side of the debate a terrible reputation for being jerks. Recently she had a rather shocking and vile reference to the kids. Some people don't get the difference between laughing in a snarky way (like WG and her movie reference or that excellent Jimmy Fallon skit) and laughing about child rape or "field dressing" someone. child rape should never be used for a joke. Never. Sorry. I am just so upset about the first comment on this thread. It's not meant as snark. It's rather misogynistic, IMO.
Werny Gal, thank you for deleting the nasty "flames" from either side. It's usually so much more pleasant here. I'll just wait for a new thread. Thanks, WG.
Thanks mocha, I thought the first comment was over the top but I took it as humorous. I understand your position on it and will remove it.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the Z on TV blog. Z is a respectable journalist and would never allow his blog to be used for hateful dissent about this topic or any other. There are no favorites there and it's moderated. For anyone to question his journalistic credibility or his intentions with his blog is totally off base and out of line.
I feel that I must clarify why I mentioned zontv earlier. It was because it was mentioned in the post I responded to. Yes, Mocha that is the post and the poster that I take issue with. I am outraged that it was allowed on a newspaper blog. I have also read some really cruel, and rude things about the children in the past on one of the blogs linked here. To be fair, it was some time ago, and I have not read there recently. I've heard the focus is now usually on Kate. I personally find all the negativity surrounding this family very sad. I was a fan of the show from the beginning I liked Jon and I liked Kate. I found something relatable in both. The kids I think were the stars of the show. I'm not going to mention any sites because unfortunetly it seems like there is alot of us vs them mentality when it comes to the Gosselin's. I do try to see all sides, I've seen respectful debate, and I have seen attacks on debaters. I was not implying that it was here and that you had some kind of a hate club going. Sheesh, I've only blogged for a month I don't want to start a war of words with anyone. As I mentioned as a small town girl I do enjoy the occasional tidbit. It's malicious and crude gossip that I have issues with and comments about the kids, they really burn my butt!
I have 8 reasons, count 'em, 8 reasons to never watch TLC or any Discover channel ever again.
Please remove the offensive link described above.
We are only trying to protect the children.
"I found something relatable in both. The kids I think were the stars of the show."
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That's just the problem. The kids WERE the star of the show and Kate knows she needs them to continue on her self-preceived path to "stardom". There's no other reason to put them back on TV. Dumping them once again into a fish tank for people to ahh and oogle their every move is exploitation for money. Pure and simple. Let the kids grow up first, and then if they want to become famous with cameras following them around, it's their choice.
Someone's flaming me by leaving links to porn sites. Sorry about that, I remove them as soon as I find them.
I just had to delete another. I am turning on comment moderation so I have to approve comments before they are posted. It may take a while before your comment shows up but as long as they aren't flaming, attacking or offensive I will allow them. Thank you (most of you) for your patience.
I am so sad that TLC and Kate are going to film those kids again. Will it ever end?
And as far as "Z on TV", I think it's about time someone in the media has not allowed themselves to be bought out by TLC and judge Kate Gosselin for the no-talent she is---Z is a TV critic! That is his job! And if you read his comments to the bloggers, he is fair and checks out the facts. He gets criticism from the Kate lovers because he's not a part of the media that is in bed with TLC's PR machine.
Oh, and what ever happened to the state of PA investigation into those kids working without permits? Sounds like it "quietly" got resolved if you get my drift. I hope at least Cara and Mady are at the age now that they can just say no to "mommy dearest".
Wow...it never occured to me that the reason Kate stirs my emotions so much is because that is my mother I am seeing in her. Everything she says and does I have heard, seen or experienced. Maybe that is why there is such a wide divide among the fans and the rest of us. Maybe the fans are just like her and see absolutely nothing wrong, the rest of us feel so emotionally toward those kids because we remember and it is still a very raw emotion. BTW...my mom was not even close to being like Kate, but still enough to cause me to bristle when I hear Kate or read a statement from her.
Tam,
You are not the first poster to mention your own relationship with your mother as informing your opinion of Kate.
There are more of us here than people who 'had' a mother like Kate and people who 'are' a mother like Kate. Some of us have never seen anyone like Kate in our lives. In fact, that's what made me first interested in her. She had no people skills or what I call a filter on what she says. I don't feel as strongly against Kate as I see on either side. Maybe my lack of experience with this type of person explains my middle-of-the-road position.
Mocha,
Thank you for explaining the flip side. I can see the middle of the road stance. It is very personal and the heartache I see the children going through and knowing that quite honestly, in my experience, they are better off with Kate being away and persuing her own interest. There could be a very heavy price for those kids to pay if someone like her is not happy, and the emotional rollercoaster of is today a "nice" day or a "mean" day. To have a home that is even tempered a majority of the time is something those kids probably crave. I cant say if Jon would be able to provide that either. There really needs to be a "constant" in their lives right now and serious counseling. Someone just needs to have the "balls" to stand up and take care of these kids and stop looking at the $$$ signs and TLC non-disclosures be damned.
Hi mocha and tam,
I have had experience with a mother like Kate. She is my ex-DIL and was the mother to our grandson until she abandon him, my son remarried, and grandson's step-mom is now legally his mom just as if she gave birth. Jon's nature reminds me in many ways of my son; he is gentle, laid-back with a dry sense of humor, and would do anything for anyone. I've witnessed first hand what a narcissistic mom can do to destroy a family, damage a child and make a grown man cry. Luckily, the dark days are behind, but they lasted for years. You can possibly forgive, but you never ever forget the awful consequences. My son has said, "if adversity builds character, I'm the biggest character around." I'm happy to report he got his sense of humor back. :)
Checked with Barnes and Noble. Kate's book is 208 printed pages.
The 500 amount was thrown out on the internet and took on a life of its own.
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