I called Rep Thomas Murt's office this afternoon to follow up on our phone call of the week of the child labor hearings, hoping to hear that his office had heard from the PA Department of Labor & Industry regarding the issue of ensuring the Gosselins children are working only with adults who have been cleared for child abuse and criminal backgrounds.
The forms for doing these checks are easy to obtain and submit and their results are completely confidential. The individual being checked fills them out and sends them in, and after they have been filled out with information indicating that the individual either has or has not been convicted of child abuse or a felony in PA they are sent back to that individual who then gives them to their prospective employer, volunteer coordinator, or whoever they will potentially be working under. Having the info sent back to the person applying for the job or volunteer position rather than directly to the prospective employer makes this a confidential process because if someone's papers come back showing that they've been convicted of something, they can always call the prospective employer and say something like, "Gee whiz, I'm withdrawing my application because I got another job..."
These two sets of paperwork must be completed, returned and handed in prior to any direct contact with children, and any responsible Pennylvania employer knows it. You cannot work as a teacher, in a day care center, or at any agency serving children without them. I have been filling them out for years because I am on the board of directors of an agency that services children here in Berks County, and I don't even work directly with the kids the agency serves.
In the third week of April Representative Murt personally told me he'd been trying to get a response on this from Dept of L&I Secretary Sandi Vito for the previous week with no luck. He kept asking, and the Dept of L&I just kept not responding. It is now six weeks later and Rep Murt's office just told me they are still waiting for a response.
For the past several years the Gosselin children have been followed around by and sometimes been alone in bathrooms, bedrooms and the woods with cameramen and other adults such as caterers, bodyguards, drivers, and have spent prolonged periods of time alone with nannies, babysitters, etc. There is no evidence that any of these adults went through the legally-required background checks, although that evidence has been repeatedly requested by a Pennsylvania State representative. There is also, based on this clearly profound lack of responsibility taken in regards to the safety of these children, no reason to believe that clearances have been secured for any of the adults working with the Gosselin children now that filming has resumed.
Ms. Vito, please respond to the multiple requests for information you have received from representative Murt's office, and prove me wrong.
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Friday, May 21, 2010
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Silent Five-Minute Rally, All Time Zones Invited
Persistent and well-traveled (on the Internet) and infuriating to some but adored by others commenter Irene has suggested that we each take five minutes to think about what it would be like to be the Gosselin children. I like the idea: Five minutes of walking around our homes while picturing cameras and mikes everywhere. The virtual rally takes place at 7PM tonight, Wednesday May 19, 2010, in your time zone, wherever you are. This can be a great opportunity for family dicussion so get your family to join you if you can. Then come back here and share what it was like for you.
If you are unable to join us at home, take a minute now to picture this life. Imagine cameras in your house, including in your bedroom and bathroom. Some of the cameras and mics are hand-held by cameramen and others are permanently installed. This means cameras can be controlled remotely from a vehicle that is parked in the driveway, and you never know when they will be on or off. Imagine being small, uneducated and unsure of yourself, and having one or more much bigger persons hovering over you while holding cameras, and them not responding if you talk to them because of the invisible wall they're not supposed to break while they're working.
What would that be like for you?
If you are unable to join us at home, take a minute now to picture this life. Imagine cameras in your house, including in your bedroom and bathroom. Some of the cameras and mics are hand-held by cameramen and others are permanently installed. This means cameras can be controlled remotely from a vehicle that is parked in the driveway, and you never know when they will be on or off. Imagine being small, uneducated and unsure of yourself, and having one or more much bigger persons hovering over you while holding cameras, and them not responding if you talk to them because of the invisible wall they're not supposed to break while they're working.
What would that be like for you?
Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Protesting on Behalf of the Gosselin Children
UPDATE: For more info on boycotting Kate Plus 8 go to facebook account. "4-8 Please boycott Kate plus 8 on TLC" It can be found under groups.
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As some of you already know there might be a peaceful protest of TLC filming the Gosselin children in front of the Gosselin property in Wernersville on Saturday, May 28 at 12 PM.
This wouldn't be the first protest against the Gosselin children being exploited in entertainment, and so far the attempts at protests haven't made much of a dent. A year ago in May 2009 Kate Gosselin’s sister-in-law Julie exposed the unreality of ‘Jon & Kate Plus 8 and urged viewers not to watch. In August 2009 a man protested the show by standing outside the Gosselin home with a sign that read, "It's not Jon, It's not Kate, the only losers are the 8."
I'm torn on this one. Like many of you, I am dismayed at the prospect of further filming of the eight, and I was horrified to read that they will be away from home this summer, filming one of their mother's two new shows. I am all in favor of social activism, which has a long history of being an assertive, not aggressive or illegal, way to inform and protest, but I feel so badly for the children, especially Colin at this time, that I can't condone anything that might create more havoc at the house. Therefore, while I support the rights and motivations of anyone who decides to protest in front of the house, I will not be joining them.
I'd like to promote protesting in a way that could not potentially further damage the children. Betty White just hosted Saturday Night Live after a very effective petition was started on Facebook. A facebook petition is something I'd be happy to sign and promote here. I'd also be supportive of a protest at the TLC offices. But not in front of the house where the kids could either see it live or see pictures of it later on. I just think they've been through way too much already.
Meanwhile I'll keep protesting in my own quiet way, by not watching any shows with the Gosselin children in them and by continuing to provide education right here at my Small Town Gosselins blog.
Sunday, May 9, 2010
Gloria Allred on PA Child labor Laws
Following is an excerpt of Gloria Allred's testimony at the April 14, 2010 hearing on child labor laws hosted by Pennsylvania Rep. Murt. Although the hearings were not about the Gosselins in particular, they would no doubt have not taken place if the Gosselin children being filmed here had not brought attention to the topic. Therefore, the Gosselins various shows being filmed in PA has provided us with a valuable opportunity to examine and improve our laws regarding children being filmed in entertainment here.
As I read through this first portion of Gloria's testimony I thought of some examples where, throughout this entire "reality" TV experience, the Gosselin's children's needs have not been treated as a priority. Rather than state my observations now, I invite my readers to consider the Gosselin children as they read the statement below, and then comment on how you observe this relating to the Gosselins. Then I'll post another entry listing some of your observations and including my own.
These children on reality shows don’t have a voice, they don’t make contributions to political campaigns, they don’t run for elective office and s they have no political clout. So ordinarily they got nothing but lip service , if that, from elected officials. But, obviously you are elected officials who want action and who want deeds not just words, and for that I’m very appreciative. What I’d like to talk about today is to give a short overview of what federal law does or does not do in this area, and also to, perhaps, give some analysis of Representative Murt’s proposals that I know he has not distributed, but we’ve had a chance to look at some of them and analyze them, and I’d like to emphasize what I think is positive about them and what perhaps could be a little bit clarified or improved. And then finally, I’d like to make some comments about the investigative process, and not specifically what’s going on with Jon and Kate, but the investigative process in terms of the law. I’ll give you an example, from California, in reference to an investigation that took place on the Nadya Suleman and her eight, well actually fourteen children that she has and whether that process worked or not in reference to what would work here in Pennsylvania.* And I do want to commend Jodi and Kevin Kreider who just gave incredible testimony , just perfect, and Paul Petersen who is in the interest of full disclosure of my client, but who is absolutely the leader above all else on this issue in this nation and for that matter around the world.
To begin, federally, and this background is also provided by and has been provided to me by the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, I am a member of AFTRA and I’m also a member of SAG. In reference to what the issue is federally, the most pleasing federal law that regulates the employment conditions and prevents the abuse of child workers issues is the Fair Labor Standards Act, FLSA, child labor provisions under FLSA are designed to protect the educational opportunities abuse and prohibit their employment and jobs that are detrimental to their health and safety. The FLSA restricts the hours that youth under 16 years of age are allowed to work and with hazardous occupations too dangerous for young workers to perform. And here’s what’s most important: Children employed as actors or performers in motion pictures, theatrical productions, or on radio or television programs are specifically exempt from Fair Labor Standards Act coverage and the standards and protections provided under FLSA. So let’s talk now about how does the lack of coverage under the FLSA impact children. Without national coverage, children have no consistent protection. Though some states regulate the employment of minors in the entertainment industry, other states have no provisions regulating child labor in this industry whatsoever. Among the states that normally regulate the performances of children in the media industry, few have comprehensive protections for the education health , safety and financial security of children.
For years, children have necessarily been a part of the entertainment industry. It would be impossible to produce the Harry Potter films or television programs like Hanna Montana or the Suite Life of Zach and Cody without employing children as actors. And the proliferation of the so called reality programming has exacerbated the problem by utilizing children on television without any compensation or any other protection either as contestants or subjects of documentary style shows. Without the protections afforded under the FLSA, the welfare of children is put at risk. The recent hoax of the so-called balloon boy, reports that the Octomom was developing a reality TV show and the proliferation of shows like Kid Nation, Jon and Kate Plus 8, or just Kate Plus 8 illustrates that children are increasingly exploited in the media and often without fundamental protection. Federal child labor standards in the entertainment industry would ensure that the well-being of children is not bothered for the proverbial fifteen minutes of fame. As film and television production becomes decentralized, more children than ever are left without protection. States with major entertainment industry production centers like California and New York do have well developed laws and regulations as Paul Petersen had said, governing the performance of minors in the industry. But production is increasingly decentralized particularly if more states like Pennsylvania pass production incentive legislation, that’s tax incentive legislation, designed to lure film and television production to their state. Though union contracts in the industry contain provisions designed to provide the unique protections that children require, many programs are not produced under a union contract. Additionally, the performances of some children like contestants and participants in reality television may not be covered by a union contract because the children are not technically “employed”.
So what protections are needed? First of all in the area of wages. There is currently no minimum wage for children who appear on air. Children who appear in competition or documentary-styled reality programs may not receive any compensation at all. This is nationally.
Financial protections. There are only four states that have a Coogan law requiring establishment of a trust account to preserve and safeguard a portion of their earnings for adulthood.
Health, safety, and working conditions. Children need health and safety protection that is specific to their physical, mental, emotional and developmental needs.
Education. States like California require that teachers be provided for children while they are working on production. California also requires the presence of a parent or a guardian while a child performer works. Other states may have no provisions at all for onset education.
Hours of work. Children need additional rest when working, particularly if they are traveling or working at night. Associate regulation of hourly support is necessary.
Moral oversights. Children should not be placed in a moral situation that is inappropriate, be exposed to distressing scenes, be forced to become distressed in order to prompt a particular reaction or employed in any situation involving nudity, which goes to your concerns, Representative.
Representative Murt, I know, has drafted some proposed improvements or changes in Pennsylvania Child Labor Law and without going through all of them because I think that’s in the province of Representative Murt to present, I would like to comment that I think it’s very positive that he wants to define work in reality shows. His proposals for legislation will require that children who appear on reality television are working as performers and should be subject to the state’s (??) process for child performers.
Minimum wage recommendation by Representative Murt: The legislation which he proposes will recognize that children in reality television should be paid for their performances, or their participation, and that the work load and restrictions in place for children working in other types of television programming such as scripted entertainment programming should be in place for kids in reality television. I see that as a positive as well.
Moral oversight. Representative Murt’s proposed legislation has some provisions related to moral oversight. Meaning prohibitions on photographing children while changing clothes, or bathing, performances where alcohol is present. Additional protections would be helpful. I’ll make a few specific suggestions there.
Health and safety. Representative Murt is concerned with that. His legislation contains provisions related to health and safety, which are good. States should study to see whether (?) protection are necessary.
Now here are some areas that I believe could perhaps benefit from some clarification, Representative Murt, for improvement.
Age of children. The permitting process in Pennsylvania is such that appears that children under the age of seven are not permitted to work. If this is the case, the same restriction should exist for children in reality shows. It would eliminate ambiguity if the legislation were to contain a clearly-worded prohibition against the employment of children under the age of seven in reality shows.
Hours of work. They provide, in Representative Murt’s legislation, that children shall not work before five a.m. or after 11:30 p.m. It strikes me that that’s rather early and extremely late particularly for children as young as seven years of age. Similarly, permitting up to forty four hours of work per week as a proposed legislation and draft suggests, seems to be quite a lot, and I would lessen that.
Financial protection. Only four states, as I have mentioned, have a Coogan Law requiring establishment of a trust account to preserve and safeguard a portion of the children’s earnings for adulthood. Pennsylvania is not one of those states.
Education. States like California require that teachers be provided while they are working on production. By the way, the purpose of the teacher is merely to safeguard the workplace so the children are not endangered. California also requires the presence of a parent or guardian while a child performer works. It’s good that Representative Murt is asking the department to ensure that adequate educational instruction is provided. But the standards they have to meet needs to be defined in my opinion.
Moral oversight in Representative Murt’s proposed legislation. Children should not be placed in a moral situation that is inappropriate, be exposed to distressing scenes, be forced to become distressed in order to prompt a particular reaction. There’s a real risk that these sorts of things can be problems during the production of television reality shows.
[End of the excerpt of Allred's testimony]
*Due to the length of this post that example will be provided in a future blog entry.
As I read through this first portion of Gloria's testimony I thought of some examples where, throughout this entire "reality" TV experience, the Gosselin's children's needs have not been treated as a priority. Rather than state my observations now, I invite my readers to consider the Gosselin children as they read the statement below, and then comment on how you observe this relating to the Gosselins. Then I'll post another entry listing some of your observations and including my own.
* * * * * *
Good Morning. I’m attorney Gloria Allred, partner in the law firm of Allred, Laughlin, Goldberg in Los Angeles where I’ve been practicing law for almost 35 years. But most of all, I’m proud to be born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, graduate of Philadelphia High School for girls, a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania where I was given the honor of being a commencement speaker at the College of Arts and Sciences graduation on Franklin Field just a few years ago. And, also, I was a credentialed teacher at Benjamin Franklin School here in Philadelphia and some other schools as well in Philadelphia before I moved to California some years ago. So, thank you very much for holding this important hearing. Most of all, thank you to Representative Murt and to the other representatives who spent time here today listening very carefully. I’ve testified at numerous hearings on numerous subjects for many years and I have to say I’ve never seen elected officials so attentive and very thoughtful about the testimony that was being presented to them and really obviously looking for ways to resolve the important issues facing the children in Pennsylvania. So I thank you for that.These children on reality shows don’t have a voice, they don’t make contributions to political campaigns, they don’t run for elective office and s they have no political clout. So ordinarily they got nothing but lip service , if that, from elected officials. But, obviously you are elected officials who want action and who want deeds not just words, and for that I’m very appreciative. What I’d like to talk about today is to give a short overview of what federal law does or does not do in this area, and also to, perhaps, give some analysis of Representative Murt’s proposals that I know he has not distributed, but we’ve had a chance to look at some of them and analyze them, and I’d like to emphasize what I think is positive about them and what perhaps could be a little bit clarified or improved. And then finally, I’d like to make some comments about the investigative process, and not specifically what’s going on with Jon and Kate, but the investigative process in terms of the law. I’ll give you an example, from California, in reference to an investigation that took place on the Nadya Suleman and her eight, well actually fourteen children that she has and whether that process worked or not in reference to what would work here in Pennsylvania.* And I do want to commend Jodi and Kevin Kreider who just gave incredible testimony , just perfect, and Paul Petersen who is in the interest of full disclosure of my client, but who is absolutely the leader above all else on this issue in this nation and for that matter around the world.
To begin, federally, and this background is also provided by and has been provided to me by the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, I am a member of AFTRA and I’m also a member of SAG. In reference to what the issue is federally, the most pleasing federal law that regulates the employment conditions and prevents the abuse of child workers issues is the Fair Labor Standards Act, FLSA, child labor provisions under FLSA are designed to protect the educational opportunities abuse and prohibit their employment and jobs that are detrimental to their health and safety. The FLSA restricts the hours that youth under 16 years of age are allowed to work and with hazardous occupations too dangerous for young workers to perform. And here’s what’s most important: Children employed as actors or performers in motion pictures, theatrical productions, or on radio or television programs are specifically exempt from Fair Labor Standards Act coverage and the standards and protections provided under FLSA. So let’s talk now about how does the lack of coverage under the FLSA impact children. Without national coverage, children have no consistent protection. Though some states regulate the employment of minors in the entertainment industry, other states have no provisions regulating child labor in this industry whatsoever. Among the states that normally regulate the performances of children in the media industry, few have comprehensive protections for the education health , safety and financial security of children.
For years, children have necessarily been a part of the entertainment industry. It would be impossible to produce the Harry Potter films or television programs like Hanna Montana or the Suite Life of Zach and Cody without employing children as actors. And the proliferation of the so called reality programming has exacerbated the problem by utilizing children on television without any compensation or any other protection either as contestants or subjects of documentary style shows. Without the protections afforded under the FLSA, the welfare of children is put at risk. The recent hoax of the so-called balloon boy, reports that the Octomom was developing a reality TV show and the proliferation of shows like Kid Nation, Jon and Kate Plus 8, or just Kate Plus 8 illustrates that children are increasingly exploited in the media and often without fundamental protection. Federal child labor standards in the entertainment industry would ensure that the well-being of children is not bothered for the proverbial fifteen minutes of fame. As film and television production becomes decentralized, more children than ever are left without protection. States with major entertainment industry production centers like California and New York do have well developed laws and regulations as Paul Petersen had said, governing the performance of minors in the industry. But production is increasingly decentralized particularly if more states like Pennsylvania pass production incentive legislation, that’s tax incentive legislation, designed to lure film and television production to their state. Though union contracts in the industry contain provisions designed to provide the unique protections that children require, many programs are not produced under a union contract. Additionally, the performances of some children like contestants and participants in reality television may not be covered by a union contract because the children are not technically “employed”.
So what protections are needed? First of all in the area of wages. There is currently no minimum wage for children who appear on air. Children who appear in competition or documentary-styled reality programs may not receive any compensation at all. This is nationally.
Financial protections. There are only four states that have a Coogan law requiring establishment of a trust account to preserve and safeguard a portion of their earnings for adulthood.
Health, safety, and working conditions. Children need health and safety protection that is specific to their physical, mental, emotional and developmental needs.
Education. States like California require that teachers be provided for children while they are working on production. California also requires the presence of a parent or a guardian while a child performer works. Other states may have no provisions at all for onset education.
Hours of work. Children need additional rest when working, particularly if they are traveling or working at night. Associate regulation of hourly support is necessary.
Moral oversights. Children should not be placed in a moral situation that is inappropriate, be exposed to distressing scenes, be forced to become distressed in order to prompt a particular reaction or employed in any situation involving nudity, which goes to your concerns, Representative.
Representative Murt, I know, has drafted some proposed improvements or changes in Pennsylvania Child Labor Law and without going through all of them because I think that’s in the province of Representative Murt to present, I would like to comment that I think it’s very positive that he wants to define work in reality shows. His proposals for legislation will require that children who appear on reality television are working as performers and should be subject to the state’s (??) process for child performers.
Minimum wage recommendation by Representative Murt: The legislation which he proposes will recognize that children in reality television should be paid for their performances, or their participation, and that the work load and restrictions in place for children working in other types of television programming such as scripted entertainment programming should be in place for kids in reality television. I see that as a positive as well.
Moral oversight. Representative Murt’s proposed legislation has some provisions related to moral oversight. Meaning prohibitions on photographing children while changing clothes, or bathing, performances where alcohol is present. Additional protections would be helpful. I’ll make a few specific suggestions there.
Health and safety. Representative Murt is concerned with that. His legislation contains provisions related to health and safety, which are good. States should study to see whether (?) protection are necessary.
Now here are some areas that I believe could perhaps benefit from some clarification, Representative Murt, for improvement.
Age of children. The permitting process in Pennsylvania is such that appears that children under the age of seven are not permitted to work. If this is the case, the same restriction should exist for children in reality shows. It would eliminate ambiguity if the legislation were to contain a clearly-worded prohibition against the employment of children under the age of seven in reality shows.
Hours of work. They provide, in Representative Murt’s legislation, that children shall not work before five a.m. or after 11:30 p.m. It strikes me that that’s rather early and extremely late particularly for children as young as seven years of age. Similarly, permitting up to forty four hours of work per week as a proposed legislation and draft suggests, seems to be quite a lot, and I would lessen that.
Financial protection. Only four states, as I have mentioned, have a Coogan Law requiring establishment of a trust account to preserve and safeguard a portion of the children’s earnings for adulthood. Pennsylvania is not one of those states.
Education. States like California require that teachers be provided while they are working on production. By the way, the purpose of the teacher is merely to safeguard the workplace so the children are not endangered. California also requires the presence of a parent or guardian while a child performer works. It’s good that Representative Murt is asking the department to ensure that adequate educational instruction is provided. But the standards they have to meet needs to be defined in my opinion.
Moral oversight in Representative Murt’s proposed legislation. Children should not be placed in a moral situation that is inappropriate, be exposed to distressing scenes, be forced to become distressed in order to prompt a particular reaction. There’s a real risk that these sorts of things can be problems during the production of television reality shows.
[End of the excerpt of Allred's testimony]
*Due to the length of this post that example will be provided in a future blog entry.
Thursday, May 6, 2010
Dear Anonymous
Dear anonymous, although I am not obligated to answer your "questions" I will provide some clarification. This may also provide background for newcomers who have noticed the baffling phenomenon of some commenters repeatedly coming here despite their obvious dislike of my blog. I am making this an entry of it's own so when this discussion has run its course we can move on with our own respective blogs, interests, views and lives.
I started this blog because I happened to post about living in the same town as the Gosselins on my other blog, and discovered people were interested in hearing more about it. I decided to call myself Werny Gal not to hide behind the name but because it was a good summation of what I was doing here. I signed my real name in comments and friends called me by my real name in comments. Eventually I learned there are fervant Kate fans who harass anyone they perceive as hating Kate. By the time I discovered this and removed old comments with my name in them, I had already been the target of harassment for some time without even knowing it. I usually stick to my own blog and mind my own business, but I am aware that there is ongoing discussion on a few Kate fanatiK blogs on topics such as how much I hate Kate, how I am abusing her children, and how I must be exposed because I am a hypocrite and therefore unqualified to work as a professional counselor. These discussions are infused with exagerations and outright lies about me, as they often are about other bloggers the Kate fanatiKs dislike or disaprove of and have similarly targetted. Along with the other bloggers whom the Kate fanatiKs dislike, I have been given an acronym, I have received threats such as "this time you've gone too far," I have been sent multiple nasty comments by the same few people using different names in attempts to make the fanatiKs look like a large contingency, personal information about me has been posted online, and I am the target of a flog. This negative energy is being expended by people who are anonymous and who would have much bigger and important battles to fight elsewhere if they didn't spend hours looking online for other bloggers to pick on, and by association they unfortunately reinforce the more negative aspects of Kate's reputation.
Since I started this blog I've become much more educated about the exploitation of children in the media. I've worked with many adults who were abused or exploited as children and also been involved in child advocacy for many years, but I never realized how the exploitation of children in entertainment was connected to child abuse. As a result in the past year I've gradually changed the focus of this blog. It started out as a silly lark but over time I've realized there are many caring people who are interested in learning about how the field of entertainment exploits children, and maybe even doing something about it. This entire experience has deepened my understanding of various levels of child abuse and my resolve to be part of the solution, as well as my appreciation for the many caring adults who want to help children.
In the beginning of my blogging here I made two short videos of interviews of fans standing in front of the Gosselin house, from my car window. (I've actually always found the phenomenon of the fans and paparazzi much more interesting than the Gosselins. I just never got what the big deal was.) I wanted to know what motivated some of them to drive hundreds of miles to stand there, and my readers enjoyed the videos. Less than a handful of other times I've taken a total of less than a dozen pictures out of my car window, usually of the papparazzi and most not published. One time when there was no danger to traffic I parked on the side of the road and spoke to a photographer at the fence for approximately two minutes and took four or five pictures of the same thing he was taking pictures of while Jon and the kids were posing. I do not regularly pass the Gosselin house and when I do pass it it's because my travels take me past it. I have never hung out at the Gosselin house. I have never hidden anything I've done and my family and friends know about this blog. I do regret taking pictures of the kids and after I did it I decided not do it again because it was unnecessary and yes, hypocritical. Despite that decision, what I did that one time may be distasteful to you or against your personal ethics, but it was not illegal. I respect the law, have testified for various judiciary committees on behalf of laws regarding children, am a loving mother and wife, and am a good citizen of my community.
I've always heard things about the Gosselins, most of which I've never told here because I felt it was too frivilous and sometimes too damaging or painful. I knew about several instances of Jon's bad behavior and heard the rumors about Kate and Steve way before they were in the media, and in one instance I tried through mutual connections to contact Jon to let him know that information about one of his indiscretions was going to come out in the media the next day so that he would have an opportunity to stop it, out of concern for what all the media craziness might be doing to the children. I never discussed any of these events until they were out in the mainstream media, and when I have discussed them it has always been out of concern for the children. When you read my snarkier entries, don't mistake my sense of humor for not caring. I have always fact-checked, the same way I do any time I hear a rumor about anyone, because I know how harmful gossip can be. If I've written anything here as being factual it is because I honestly believed it was, if not I've clearly stated so, and if it's my opnion I've stated that. When J&K+9 moved here there was lots of talk about them. Now there isn't so much talk anymore, and most folks wish they would just move away. However, people do still tell me things because of this blog. Most of it I don't bother to print here.
I have never sold advertising on my blog or in any other way made any money from anything related to the Gosselins. Al Walentis offered that I could read the first draft of his upcoming book and after reading it I offered him feedback on it as well as suggestions on some corrections I thought it needed which he could take or leave, but I am not in any way vested in Al's book. I excerpted three relatively benign passages on this blog because I thought they would be interesting to my readers, not to plug or promote the book. I plan to review it when it is released, and like most books I'll probably like some things about it and not like some others. I have a couple of friends whose books have been on the New York Times bestseller list and my friends can always count on me to be kind but honest.
I don't hate Kate or any of the Gosselins and I believe they both love their kids. I don't agree with some of Jon and Kate's parenting decisions, and I believe this entire experience has been damaging to them and the children, as well as other family members. IMO they made a mistake allowing TLC into their lives after the first special, and because they are still caught up in it they probably won't realize the repucussions of that professional alliance on their family for several years. We probably all agree that even without having become public figures their job as parents would've been very challenging, given their young ages at the time and the number of children they had. I don't know how anyone, especially the children, could go through what they have been through in the past year and a half and not be affected in long-term negative ways. It would have been traumatic even for adults with more maturity and more sophisticated coping skills than they have. It is surely overwhelming for the little ones.
My opinions and beliefs are my opinions and beliefs and in the long run they don't mean a hill of beans. That's why I'm Werny Gal instead of Anderson Cooper (hubba hubba.) I hope you enjoy this blog and find it educational and interesting. There's a word for people who continually subject themselves to suffering and that word is masochist. There are sites that do nothing but praise Kate, there are sites that IMO are unnecessarily nasty toward the Gosselins, and there are sites like mine that fit somewhere in the middle. In a country that allows freedom of expression and prohibits cyber harassment and cyberstalking, I suggest you find and stay at sites that most fit your needs and that you most enjoy.
Wishing you peace,
Werny Gal
I started this blog because I happened to post about living in the same town as the Gosselins on my other blog, and discovered people were interested in hearing more about it. I decided to call myself Werny Gal not to hide behind the name but because it was a good summation of what I was doing here. I signed my real name in comments and friends called me by my real name in comments. Eventually I learned there are fervant Kate fans who harass anyone they perceive as hating Kate. By the time I discovered this and removed old comments with my name in them, I had already been the target of harassment for some time without even knowing it. I usually stick to my own blog and mind my own business, but I am aware that there is ongoing discussion on a few Kate fanatiK blogs on topics such as how much I hate Kate, how I am abusing her children, and how I must be exposed because I am a hypocrite and therefore unqualified to work as a professional counselor. These discussions are infused with exagerations and outright lies about me, as they often are about other bloggers the Kate fanatiKs dislike or disaprove of and have similarly targetted. Along with the other bloggers whom the Kate fanatiKs dislike, I have been given an acronym, I have received threats such as "this time you've gone too far," I have been sent multiple nasty comments by the same few people using different names in attempts to make the fanatiKs look like a large contingency, personal information about me has been posted online, and I am the target of a flog. This negative energy is being expended by people who are anonymous and who would have much bigger and important battles to fight elsewhere if they didn't spend hours looking online for other bloggers to pick on, and by association they unfortunately reinforce the more negative aspects of Kate's reputation.
Since I started this blog I've become much more educated about the exploitation of children in the media. I've worked with many adults who were abused or exploited as children and also been involved in child advocacy for many years, but I never realized how the exploitation of children in entertainment was connected to child abuse. As a result in the past year I've gradually changed the focus of this blog. It started out as a silly lark but over time I've realized there are many caring people who are interested in learning about how the field of entertainment exploits children, and maybe even doing something about it. This entire experience has deepened my understanding of various levels of child abuse and my resolve to be part of the solution, as well as my appreciation for the many caring adults who want to help children.
In the beginning of my blogging here I made two short videos of interviews of fans standing in front of the Gosselin house, from my car window. (I've actually always found the phenomenon of the fans and paparazzi much more interesting than the Gosselins. I just never got what the big deal was.) I wanted to know what motivated some of them to drive hundreds of miles to stand there, and my readers enjoyed the videos. Less than a handful of other times I've taken a total of less than a dozen pictures out of my car window, usually of the papparazzi and most not published. One time when there was no danger to traffic I parked on the side of the road and spoke to a photographer at the fence for approximately two minutes and took four or five pictures of the same thing he was taking pictures of while Jon and the kids were posing. I do not regularly pass the Gosselin house and when I do pass it it's because my travels take me past it. I have never hung out at the Gosselin house. I have never hidden anything I've done and my family and friends know about this blog. I do regret taking pictures of the kids and after I did it I decided not do it again because it was unnecessary and yes, hypocritical. Despite that decision, what I did that one time may be distasteful to you or against your personal ethics, but it was not illegal. I respect the law, have testified for various judiciary committees on behalf of laws regarding children, am a loving mother and wife, and am a good citizen of my community.
I've always heard things about the Gosselins, most of which I've never told here because I felt it was too frivilous and sometimes too damaging or painful. I knew about several instances of Jon's bad behavior and heard the rumors about Kate and Steve way before they were in the media, and in one instance I tried through mutual connections to contact Jon to let him know that information about one of his indiscretions was going to come out in the media the next day so that he would have an opportunity to stop it, out of concern for what all the media craziness might be doing to the children. I never discussed any of these events until they were out in the mainstream media, and when I have discussed them it has always been out of concern for the children. When you read my snarkier entries, don't mistake my sense of humor for not caring. I have always fact-checked, the same way I do any time I hear a rumor about anyone, because I know how harmful gossip can be. If I've written anything here as being factual it is because I honestly believed it was, if not I've clearly stated so, and if it's my opnion I've stated that. When J&K+9 moved here there was lots of talk about them. Now there isn't so much talk anymore, and most folks wish they would just move away. However, people do still tell me things because of this blog. Most of it I don't bother to print here.
I have never sold advertising on my blog or in any other way made any money from anything related to the Gosselins. Al Walentis offered that I could read the first draft of his upcoming book and after reading it I offered him feedback on it as well as suggestions on some corrections I thought it needed which he could take or leave, but I am not in any way vested in Al's book. I excerpted three relatively benign passages on this blog because I thought they would be interesting to my readers, not to plug or promote the book. I plan to review it when it is released, and like most books I'll probably like some things about it and not like some others. I have a couple of friends whose books have been on the New York Times bestseller list and my friends can always count on me to be kind but honest.
I don't hate Kate or any of the Gosselins and I believe they both love their kids. I don't agree with some of Jon and Kate's parenting decisions, and I believe this entire experience has been damaging to them and the children, as well as other family members. IMO they made a mistake allowing TLC into their lives after the first special, and because they are still caught up in it they probably won't realize the repucussions of that professional alliance on their family for several years. We probably all agree that even without having become public figures their job as parents would've been very challenging, given their young ages at the time and the number of children they had. I don't know how anyone, especially the children, could go through what they have been through in the past year and a half and not be affected in long-term negative ways. It would have been traumatic even for adults with more maturity and more sophisticated coping skills than they have. It is surely overwhelming for the little ones.
My opinions and beliefs are my opinions and beliefs and in the long run they don't mean a hill of beans. That's why I'm Werny Gal instead of Anderson Cooper (hubba hubba.) I hope you enjoy this blog and find it educational and interesting. There's a word for people who continually subject themselves to suffering and that word is masochist. There are sites that do nothing but praise Kate, there are sites that IMO are unnecessarily nasty toward the Gosselins, and there are sites like mine that fit somewhere in the middle. In a country that allows freedom of expression and prohibits cyber harassment and cyberstalking, I suggest you find and stay at sites that most fit your needs and that you most enjoy.
Wishing you peace,
Werny Gal
Monday, May 3, 2010
My Money's On the End of Summer
According to my sharp-eyed blog commenter GeorgiaMom, one of the tabloids reported that Kate has had her assistant checking out schools in LA and for guest spots on sitcoms for the kids.
It's been looking like Kate has a hankering to move to L.A. ever since her DWTS experience. When (not if) that happens, Wernersville will breathe a sigh of relief and go back to being the quiet small town we locals have always known and loved. I think Kate would be a lot happier living in the Hollywood area and she'd have a much better chance of finding the kind of man she'd like to spend the rest of her life with. It saddens me that the Gosselin children might continue in entertainment because they've grown up with cameras and never had a chance to experience their childhoods with the privacy that most of us take for granted and without self-consciousness. The good news is if they move to California and continue to perform they will live in a state where their rights are better protected than they were here, thanks to better laws and child advocacy organizations such a A Minor Consideration. And in the long run the whole situation will have done some good here because we now will have improved child lablor laws and the authorities will be more likely to confirm they have been abided by. When this happens I will stop writing my blog because my perspective has been from living in the same small town as them. It's been fun but ending it would give me more time for other things. My bet is they'll be gone from Wernersville by the end of the summer, and Jon will follow them out there to be near the children.
Thansk GM, and if you send me the link to that report I'll add it here.
It's been looking like Kate has a hankering to move to L.A. ever since her DWTS experience. When (not if) that happens, Wernersville will breathe a sigh of relief and go back to being the quiet small town we locals have always known and loved. I think Kate would be a lot happier living in the Hollywood area and she'd have a much better chance of finding the kind of man she'd like to spend the rest of her life with. It saddens me that the Gosselin children might continue in entertainment because they've grown up with cameras and never had a chance to experience their childhoods with the privacy that most of us take for granted and without self-consciousness. The good news is if they move to California and continue to perform they will live in a state where their rights are better protected than they were here, thanks to better laws and child advocacy organizations such a A Minor Consideration. And in the long run the whole situation will have done some good here because we now will have improved child lablor laws and the authorities will be more likely to confirm they have been abided by. When this happens I will stop writing my blog because my perspective has been from living in the same small town as them. It's been fun but ending it would give me more time for other things. My bet is they'll be gone from Wernersville by the end of the summer, and Jon will follow them out there to be near the children.
Thansk GM, and if you send me the link to that report I'll add it here.
Thursday, April 29, 2010
The Real Jon Gosselin Fake Fan Site
I've mentioned a friend who worked as a reporter for one of the tabloids last year. He is one of the sources I get my information from, and as you know if you are a regular reader, I try to be as accurate as I can. He is a respected journalist who worked on our local newspaper for thirty years, and the book he's working on is based on notes he took during his tabloid work.
You may recall that that my journalist friend told me about a tabloid photographer creating a fake fan site in order to ingratiate himself with Jon (it worked.) The fake fan site was thought to be lost, but today my friend found it and sent me a link to it. For your viewing pleasure, here it is. Personally I find it pretty darned hilarious. Hope you enjoy it.
You may recall that that my journalist friend told me about a tabloid photographer creating a fake fan site in order to ingratiate himself with Jon (it worked.) The fake fan site was thought to be lost, but today my friend found it and sent me a link to it. For your viewing pleasure, here it is. Personally I find it pretty darned hilarious. Hope you enjoy it.
Wednesday, April 28, 2010
It's A Living
You may have read that there was a skirmish between the paps at the Gosselin house Sunday. It started over a parking space. Other than on the side of the road, which is usually not allowed, parking can be found in one of two areas. One area is about a half mile away on a connecting country road, where there is a little turnaround area with a small triangle of grass in the middle. That is the preferred area, because the other one's at Blue Marsh over a mile away around several bends down the winding country road in the other direction. One photographer has been spending more time that the others at Casa Gosselin, and he's been using the preferred space for quite some time. So much time that he's begun to feel entitled to it. So he got testy when he went to park the other day and found that some other paps had taken the parking space he now feels entitled to, and some nasty words were exchanged. According to my source the annoyed photographer is a little hotheaded so the verbal exchange wasn't that big of a surprise.
Some of my readers have asked about the paparazzi - what it's like for them, how much they make, what their relationship to J&K has been. Today I broke bread with my friend who worked for a tabloid last year and asked him some questions about all that, and here's what I learned. (NOTE: Paparazzi are usually either photographers or reporters, but are usually not both. This is because they are either professional photographers, or they are professional journalists. Whenever possible, below, I differentiate which one they are. If I use the word "paps, " then either I don't know which one it was, or it doesn't matter for the purposes of that sentence. People usually picture just photographers below the house at the fence, but there are sometimes reporters there as well. You can usually tell which is which because the photographers have very good expensive equipment while reporters have either crappy or no cameras, or sometimes they have binoculars. They all have the newest hand-held devices which allow them the virtually get images and stories to their respective employers or buyers.)
Kate has, except for one occasion, refused to even acknowledge the paps, either at her home or when she's out doing her errands. On the other hand, Jon's contact and relationships with various reporters and photographers have developed steadily since when he was still on the show with Kate. At first he just came down to the fence and signed pictures for fans, but he gradually began answering questions and engaging in actual conversations. After Jon began responding to the paps, one of the photographers went online and made a fake Jon fan site and told Jon about it to get in good with him. (That fan site was online briefly and then faded into oblivion, and my source believes Jon never knew it was fake.) Then Jon gradually started inviting paps out for drinks. A mutual understanding was established: Jon would provide photo opportunities and sound bites for the paps, and in exchange the paps would leave him alone when he went out to the bars at night so he wouldn't be photographed drunk or behaving badly. For example, he'd tell them when and where he was going to get his car washed so they could be there if they wanted pictures, and then later he could go out and party without worrying about photo evidence which might tarnish his TLC-appropriate image.
Occasionally Jon would befriend one of the paps and they'd go out to eat or party together, and then he'd switch favorties and move on to another. Boundaries became blurred as the same group of people were around each other for hours at a time at the property or wherever the action was, some of them photographers, some of them reporters, some of them bodyguards and some of them Jon. Money started changing hands when guards could be seen being handed cash for tipping off the paps about where Jon or Kate were going or even about things happening in the house. Jon also started cashing in on all the money being made outside of his TLC work, especially after the show ended and he no longer had that income. He started leaking things to the paps, and then he hired one of the tabloid photographers to be his bodyguard. Then this photographer who was also Jon's bodyguard was able to take pictures of Jon no one else could get, and he and Jon split the money they got for the pictures.
After the Deanna Hummel pictures were released TLC barred Jon from talking to anyone for 45 days. In the beginning of the 45 day press ban, Jon signed autographs at the front fence but would say "No comment," or apologetically state that he was not allowed to talk with anyone anymore. Then after a while the TLC ban was gradually forgotten and he started talking again. Ever since the tabloid shit hit the fan last year Jon has leaked a lot of stories and sometimes tried to manipulate the press by planting things. My friend told me that Jon probably leaked the ridiculous recent story about his having a rich older girlfriend from Washington D.C., which hasn't panned out to be true.
Kate has never walked down to the gate to talk to fans or photographers. She has, one time that I know of, walked down to the gate to put out the trash. This appeared very staged due to the casual yet trendy matchy-matchy outfit and nice makeup and hair, and the fact that she could see there were lots of paps out front at the time so obviously they were going to take her picture and ask her questions. She usually has the house help or nannies take the trash down. When she has the gate opened to drive in or out, she does not make eye contact or acknowledge the paps or fans, just like she does not acknowledge them at Target, Starbucks or anywhere else.
TLC currently pays Jon $5,000 a month with the provision that he is not allowed to do any other work. TLC has a one-way option of continuing this contract once it runs out. (In other words, it's their decision whether or not to continue with it, and Jon has to go along with that decision.) As most of you probably know, Jon seems to be getting along better with Kate and TLC within the past couple of days, and it now looks like he's flip-flopped and is supporting the kids doing more television, so he may be getting lined up to be in Kate's new shows or to somehow otherwise increase his income from TLC.
How much can the photographers make if they get a good image? The picture of Deanna Hummel in the car with Jon that started the whole sordid shitstorm went for $18,000 to US Magazine. The photographer who got that shot was offered $24,000 by the National Enquirer but he decided to take less so he could have a glossy magazine cover in his portfolio rather than the legendarily tacky Enquirer. The highest price ever for a Gosselin image went to the photographer who went into the trees to the side of the house where he wasn't supposed to be and took the picture of Kate swatting one of the girl's behinds. That image fetched $72,000. On the other end of the spectrum, the Stephanie Santoro picture, when she was caught on film doing the early morning walk of shame out of Jon's garage apartment, only went for $10,000, as the price for images went progressively down with each of Jon's indescretions and she was numero quartro.
Kate has never had a relationship with the reporters or the photographers, but she doesn't have to because she has TLC packaging and promoting her. My friend has spoken to her and tried to engage her in conversations several times, and the only time my friend knows of that she actually responded to a reporter or photographer was on Monday 4/26/10, at the Giant where she grocery shops. That interview can be seen here.
Has Kate manipulated the press? It's possible she has, but if so, not nearly so much as Jon. The press can manipulate too. For example, People Magazine likes to make itself sound credible by saying they don't pay for interviews. Sure they don't, but what they don't tell you is that if you're in the magazine, especially on the cover, they will pay you for the photos. Therefore Jon and Kate have probably made the standard People magazine "photo" fee of $30,000 each time they've been on the cover.
Some of my readers have asked about the paparazzi - what it's like for them, how much they make, what their relationship to J&K has been. Today I broke bread with my friend who worked for a tabloid last year and asked him some questions about all that, and here's what I learned. (NOTE: Paparazzi are usually either photographers or reporters, but are usually not both. This is because they are either professional photographers, or they are professional journalists. Whenever possible, below, I differentiate which one they are. If I use the word "paps, " then either I don't know which one it was, or it doesn't matter for the purposes of that sentence. People usually picture just photographers below the house at the fence, but there are sometimes reporters there as well. You can usually tell which is which because the photographers have very good expensive equipment while reporters have either crappy or no cameras, or sometimes they have binoculars. They all have the newest hand-held devices which allow them the virtually get images and stories to their respective employers or buyers.)
Kate has, except for one occasion, refused to even acknowledge the paps, either at her home or when she's out doing her errands. On the other hand, Jon's contact and relationships with various reporters and photographers have developed steadily since when he was still on the show with Kate. At first he just came down to the fence and signed pictures for fans, but he gradually began answering questions and engaging in actual conversations. After Jon began responding to the paps, one of the photographers went online and made a fake Jon fan site and told Jon about it to get in good with him. (That fan site was online briefly and then faded into oblivion, and my source believes Jon never knew it was fake.) Then Jon gradually started inviting paps out for drinks. A mutual understanding was established: Jon would provide photo opportunities and sound bites for the paps, and in exchange the paps would leave him alone when he went out to the bars at night so he wouldn't be photographed drunk or behaving badly. For example, he'd tell them when and where he was going to get his car washed so they could be there if they wanted pictures, and then later he could go out and party without worrying about photo evidence which might tarnish his TLC-appropriate image.
Occasionally Jon would befriend one of the paps and they'd go out to eat or party together, and then he'd switch favorties and move on to another. Boundaries became blurred as the same group of people were around each other for hours at a time at the property or wherever the action was, some of them photographers, some of them reporters, some of them bodyguards and some of them Jon. Money started changing hands when guards could be seen being handed cash for tipping off the paps about where Jon or Kate were going or even about things happening in the house. Jon also started cashing in on all the money being made outside of his TLC work, especially after the show ended and he no longer had that income. He started leaking things to the paps, and then he hired one of the tabloid photographers to be his bodyguard. Then this photographer who was also Jon's bodyguard was able to take pictures of Jon no one else could get, and he and Jon split the money they got for the pictures.
After the Deanna Hummel pictures were released TLC barred Jon from talking to anyone for 45 days. In the beginning of the 45 day press ban, Jon signed autographs at the front fence but would say "No comment," or apologetically state that he was not allowed to talk with anyone anymore. Then after a while the TLC ban was gradually forgotten and he started talking again. Ever since the tabloid shit hit the fan last year Jon has leaked a lot of stories and sometimes tried to manipulate the press by planting things. My friend told me that Jon probably leaked the ridiculous recent story about his having a rich older girlfriend from Washington D.C., which hasn't panned out to be true.
Kate has never walked down to the gate to talk to fans or photographers. She has, one time that I know of, walked down to the gate to put out the trash. This appeared very staged due to the casual yet trendy matchy-matchy outfit and nice makeup and hair, and the fact that she could see there were lots of paps out front at the time so obviously they were going to take her picture and ask her questions. She usually has the house help or nannies take the trash down. When she has the gate opened to drive in or out, she does not make eye contact or acknowledge the paps or fans, just like she does not acknowledge them at Target, Starbucks or anywhere else.
TLC currently pays Jon $5,000 a month with the provision that he is not allowed to do any other work. TLC has a one-way option of continuing this contract once it runs out. (In other words, it's their decision whether or not to continue with it, and Jon has to go along with that decision.) As most of you probably know, Jon seems to be getting along better with Kate and TLC within the past couple of days, and it now looks like he's flip-flopped and is supporting the kids doing more television, so he may be getting lined up to be in Kate's new shows or to somehow otherwise increase his income from TLC.
How much can the photographers make if they get a good image? The picture of Deanna Hummel in the car with Jon that started the whole sordid shitstorm went for $18,000 to US Magazine. The photographer who got that shot was offered $24,000 by the National Enquirer but he decided to take less so he could have a glossy magazine cover in his portfolio rather than the legendarily tacky Enquirer. The highest price ever for a Gosselin image went to the photographer who went into the trees to the side of the house where he wasn't supposed to be and took the picture of Kate swatting one of the girl's behinds. That image fetched $72,000. On the other end of the spectrum, the Stephanie Santoro picture, when she was caught on film doing the early morning walk of shame out of Jon's garage apartment, only went for $10,000, as the price for images went progressively down with each of Jon's indescretions and she was numero quartro.
Kate has never had a relationship with the reporters or the photographers, but she doesn't have to because she has TLC packaging and promoting her. My friend has spoken to her and tried to engage her in conversations several times, and the only time my friend knows of that she actually responded to a reporter or photographer was on Monday 4/26/10, at the Giant where she grocery shops. That interview can be seen here.
Has Kate manipulated the press? It's possible she has, but if so, not nearly so much as Jon. The press can manipulate too. For example, People Magazine likes to make itself sound credible by saying they don't pay for interviews. Sure they don't, but what they don't tell you is that if you're in the magazine, especially on the cover, they will pay you for the photos. Therefore Jon and Kate have probably made the standard People magazine "photo" fee of $30,000 each time they've been on the cover.
Sunday, April 25, 2010
Happy Thanksgiving?
Here is the second installment on some of the material my friend, who worked for a tabloid for a few months last year, shared with me. As I said before, I am choosing to share some of the tamer material, out of respect for the kids. This entry covers events that took place during Thanksgiving 2009. I think it shows an interesting picture of daily life at Casa Gosselin, after the breakup and while Jon was living in the garage apartment. It also shows the mythical supermom Kate vs. the real Kate.
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The day before the holiday a woman drove a black Volvo SUV through the gate and onto the Gosselin property. She made five trips, alone and in the rain, carrying a total of 16 white plastic bags of Giant groceries into the house.
A nanny source said,"wants to look like a supermom who does it all – taking care of eight kids and the house and having a career but the fact is that she barely does anything. She’s got so many people working for her and doing everything but nobody reports that. She’s had a woman here for two days working on preparing food for her and two people watching the kids and someone else cleaning the house. Kate spent most of the day locked in her office talking on the phone."
The only activity at Heffner RoadThanksgiving day was a visit by three Mennonite women who stopped by to leave a gift for Kate. One woman, from Kentucky, was visiting family in Lancaster County. She asked if Jon was here and the pap told her no. She said, "That’s OK, I didn’t want to see him anyway. I brought a gift for Kate."
That gift was three painted wood blocks. One word was embossed on each: Faith, Family, Friends. The Mennonite seemed put off by the fact Kate didn’t answer the buzzer or send Steve down to the gate to tote up her gift. After three attempts at leaving a message, she left the bag inside the gate and they left. Nobody came down for the bag by 8 p.m. Along with the painted blocks, the woman left a card that read, "A basket of wishes … and a bushel of love! Happy Thanksgiving from my family to yours."
A handwritten note said:
"Dear Kate –
I made this gift not knowing who to give it to. Then it came to me – you!
We all need these 3 in our life.
Friends – during times of trouble in one's life this is a test of who your real / true friends are.
Family – is next. Unfortunately, some have betrayed you. We can’t choose our family. We are born into one.
Faith – is at the top. Our friends will leave us, our family will disappoint us, but one thing for sure, God will never leave us or forsake us.
Kate, Happy Thanksgiving. May the Lord be with you. Take care & God Bless!"
[name removed by Werny Gal]
We arrived at the Gosselin house at sunrise Friday to confirm suspicions of Steve Neild and his wife sleeping over. Sure enough, they were still at the house. The lights were on in Jon’s apartment above the garage and you could see people milling about up in those quarters.
We texted Jon to let him know he had trespassers in his apartment, and he texted back, "Interesting." He phoned back a minute later, pissed. He said nobody’s supposed to go in there, ever, except him. "I have to have the locks changed now," he said, "I have a lot of valuable shit up there."
Jon said he was going to call Kate immediately and bitch her out for invading his private apartment. He said Kate had called him earlier and asked when he was stopping by to see the kids, but he now realized what she really called for was to make sure she had Steve out of the house before Jon got there. Otherwise, there could be a nasty encounter.
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[end of report by Werny Gal's source]
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The day before the holiday a woman drove a black Volvo SUV through the gate and onto the Gosselin property. She made five trips, alone and in the rain, carrying a total of 16 white plastic bags of Giant groceries into the house.
A nanny source said,"wants to look like a supermom who does it all – taking care of eight kids and the house and having a career but the fact is that she barely does anything. She’s got so many people working for her and doing everything but nobody reports that. She’s had a woman here for two days working on preparing food for her and two people watching the kids and someone else cleaning the house. Kate spent most of the day locked in her office talking on the phone."
The only activity at Heffner RoadThanksgiving day was a visit by three Mennonite women who stopped by to leave a gift for Kate. One woman, from Kentucky, was visiting family in Lancaster County. She asked if Jon was here and the pap told her no. She said, "That’s OK, I didn’t want to see him anyway. I brought a gift for Kate."
That gift was three painted wood blocks. One word was embossed on each: Faith, Family, Friends. The Mennonite seemed put off by the fact Kate didn’t answer the buzzer or send Steve down to the gate to tote up her gift. After three attempts at leaving a message, she left the bag inside the gate and they left. Nobody came down for the bag by 8 p.m. Along with the painted blocks, the woman left a card that read, "A basket of wishes … and a bushel of love! Happy Thanksgiving from my family to yours."
A handwritten note said:
"Dear Kate –
I made this gift not knowing who to give it to. Then it came to me – you!
We all need these 3 in our life.
Friends – during times of trouble in one's life this is a test of who your real / true friends are.
Family – is next. Unfortunately, some have betrayed you. We can’t choose our family. We are born into one.
Faith – is at the top. Our friends will leave us, our family will disappoint us, but one thing for sure, God will never leave us or forsake us.
Kate, Happy Thanksgiving. May the Lord be with you. Take care & God Bless!"
[name removed by Werny Gal]
We arrived at the Gosselin house at sunrise Friday to confirm suspicions of Steve Neild and his wife sleeping over. Sure enough, they were still at the house. The lights were on in Jon’s apartment above the garage and you could see people milling about up in those quarters.
We texted Jon to let him know he had trespassers in his apartment, and he texted back, "Interesting." He phoned back a minute later, pissed. He said nobody’s supposed to go in there, ever, except him. "I have to have the locks changed now," he said, "I have a lot of valuable shit up there."
Jon said he was going to call Kate immediately and bitch her out for invading his private apartment. He said Kate had called him earlier and asked when he was stopping by to see the kids, but he now realized what she really called for was to make sure she had Steve out of the house before Jon got there. Otherwise, there could be a nasty encounter.
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[end of report by Werny Gal's source]
Saturday, April 24, 2010
It's Going To Be A Bumpy Ride
As my faithful readers know, a local friend who is a veteran news reporter was hired to gather fodder for a major tabloid/entertainment magazine/rag last summer, during the height of the hoopla, not to mention traffic snarls, on a certain country road in Wernersville, PA. I've always enjoyed listening to his tales of not only what he learned while he tailed Jon and Kate, but also about what it was like working for the tabloids. It's been a learning experience for me for sure, and I wasn't even the temporary paparazzi.
I haven't always written everything I know. In fact, I've often chosen not to share certain things because I didn't want to cause potential pain or instigate drama where it didn't already exist, at least in the public eye. I knew about several things way before they became public, but I kept them to myself until they came out, for the same reason, such as Kate and the bodyguard and some of Jon's wee johnnie roamings like with Stephanie, for example. We all have to remember that what we say is going into the vast permanent unknown that is The Internet, where eight little ones, swept up in this embarrassing and shameful saga with no choice of their own, will have access to it, maybe for forever. So I try to keep it real, minimally dramatic, and productive, when possible. (Okay, okay, so nobody's perfect, right?)
It turns out that my friend was keeping notes, a chronological journal, in fact, of his Summer of Gosselining. He shared it with me a couple of days ago, and what an addictive tome it is. I am impressed with his dedication to the subject and the breadth of his information gathered, and also frankly overwhelmed with details. With his permission, in my next couple of posts I'm going to share with you some of what I've learned.
So buckle that seat belt and stayed tuned. I will be posting later tonight.
I haven't always written everything I know. In fact, I've often chosen not to share certain things because I didn't want to cause potential pain or instigate drama where it didn't already exist, at least in the public eye. I knew about several things way before they became public, but I kept them to myself until they came out, for the same reason, such as Kate and the bodyguard and some of Jon's wee johnnie roamings like with Stephanie, for example. We all have to remember that what we say is going into the vast permanent unknown that is The Internet, where eight little ones, swept up in this embarrassing and shameful saga with no choice of their own, will have access to it, maybe for forever. So I try to keep it real, minimally dramatic, and productive, when possible. (Okay, okay, so nobody's perfect, right?)
It turns out that my friend was keeping notes, a chronological journal, in fact, of his Summer of Gosselining. He shared it with me a couple of days ago, and what an addictive tome it is. I am impressed with his dedication to the subject and the breadth of his information gathered, and also frankly overwhelmed with details. With his permission, in my next couple of posts I'm going to share with you some of what I've learned.
So buckle that seat belt and stayed tuned. I will be posting later tonight.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Were TLC Employees Cleared As Legally Required by PA?
I was chilled by the testimony of the Kreiders at Rep Murt's child labor law hearings yesterday, detailing occasions when the Gosselin children were left alone with cameramen and other adults related to the production of J&K+8, in the woods, in the childrens' bedrooms and bathrooms, and other places in the normal course of daily filming.
Have all the adults who've worked with the Gosselin children gone through the legal clearances that are required when working with children in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania? These include the PA and federal criminal records and child abuse clearances that are required of all teachers, child care workers, and anyone whose work normally and regularly brings them into contact with children. I am a volunteer at a local agency that assists children in Berks County and even though I rarely actually come in contact with the children served by that agency, mine are regularly updated as required by law.
So much of yesterday's testimonies revealed the lack of privacy in the children's lives. All children should be given information that helps them stay safe regarding their personal boundaries, what is acceptable treatment toward them and what is not, and what to do & who to tell if anything inappropriate happens or if they feel uncomfortable or violated in any way.
The sexual abuse of children is epidemic in this country. How much higher is it in an industry that is primarily concerned with creating images and selling air space rather than the safety and well-being of the children?
Have all the adults who've worked with the Gosselin children gone through the legal clearances that are required when working with children in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania? These include the PA and federal criminal records and child abuse clearances that are required of all teachers, child care workers, and anyone whose work normally and regularly brings them into contact with children. I am a volunteer at a local agency that assists children in Berks County and even though I rarely actually come in contact with the children served by that agency, mine are regularly updated as required by law.
So much of yesterday's testimonies revealed the lack of privacy in the children's lives. All children should be given information that helps them stay safe regarding their personal boundaries, what is acceptable treatment toward them and what is not, and what to do & who to tell if anything inappropriate happens or if they feel uncomfortable or violated in any way.
The sexual abuse of children is epidemic in this country. How much higher is it in an industry that is primarily concerned with creating images and selling air space rather than the safety and well-being of the children?
Rebecca Gullan, PhD ~ PA Child Labor Laws Testimony
Here is Rebecca Gullan's testimony. It does not include the discussion testimony which takes place after the written/spoken testimony. (Paul Petersen's testimony may be seen in my last entry.)
As those of you who are parents, grandparents, teachers or coaches know, physical, cognitive, social and emotional capabilities are rapidly changing from the point of birth into adulthood. As such, developmental needs also change as children age. To this point, I will be framing my discussion around the basic developmental tasks at different ages and then connect these tasks with the “realities,” if you will, of reality television.
Infancy and Early Childhood (birth – 3)
In the first few years of life, small children are learning to explore and interact with the world around them. Critical to this task are the social relationships children form with their primary caretakers. Specifically, children develop early attachment to their parents that allow them to safely and comfortably explore their world. Securely attached children are those who have learned that their primary caregiver will be there consistently; a securely attached child can trust that even when mom leaves the room or is out of sight, she will reliably be there to respond to his needs. Children whose caregivers are unreliable, inconsistent or abusive develop early problems with attachment that relate to a number of negative long-term outcomes. As such, stable and reliable care is critical to the development of strong emotional bonds that can form the basis for future success.
In addition to forming emotional bonds with their caretakers, small children also learn how to communicate and regulate their emotions through referencing their caretakers. For example, a child who is trying to understand how to act in a situation that is new or ambiguous will look to those around her to learn how she should respond. Indeed, this is why experienced parents know not to scream, “Oh no!” and look panicked when a child falls down!
Finally, young children are beginning to learn how to control their own behavior. Over time, parental expectations are internalized and even when the primary caregivers are not around children will follow the rules established in the home. Critical to this learning is the interaction between parent and child. Just as with attachment and emotional development, rule-based learning requires consistent parental feedback and ongoing, mutual interactions between parent and child.
Given the developmental need for consistent and reliable parent-child interaction during the early years, how might taking part in reality television shows relate to child development?
First, one often hears parents of children in reality television shows indicating that the purpose of their participation is to support the family in a way that allows the parents to stay home with the children vs. working outside of the home. Parents might also feel that the show provides opportunities for children to explore the world in a way that the family would not have been able to afford before, such as family vacations and other child-friendly activities. Indeed, this might be a very real and notable benefit of such a lifestyle.
On the other hand, the quality and format of the increases in “family time” must also be considered. For example, a parent’s ability to form a stable attachment with his child might be challenged by the realities of a family life made public. Increased demands from the general public, the need to travel for the show, and the general disruption in everyday activities related to the television show can interfere with the caregivers’ ability to provide consistent, reliable and responsive care. Of course this is a concern of any family with parents that might travel for work or otherwise have a career that is outside of typical work parameters. However, the all-encompassing nature of reality television and the constant public demands of celebrity families can blur the line between work and home and make these concerns more acute and pervasive for families featured in reality television.
Further blurring this line is the presence of cameras, microphones, and production people into the family home. This necessity of reality television has the potential to create an atmosphere that challenges the child’s need for consistency both in terms of parents’ time as well as routine, rules and expectations. Although reality television show families are depicted as going about “life as usual,” those who make decisions related to production (e.g., taping schedules, number of cameras, rules regarding when cameras will be turned on/off) must recognize that these factors also become aspects of the children’s daily lives and can interfere greatly with the normal routine and expectations of a household, particularly if not closely regulated.
On a related note, the role of the individuals behind the camera can be confusing to children and provide them with inconsistent feedback on their own behavior as well as their general schema of appropriate social interactions. For example: Do cameramen laugh with children when something is funny? Correct incorrect grammar? Pick them up when they fall? One must also take care to determine how inappropriate behaviors that might make “better television” are encouraged or discouraged by either parents or the individuals involved in producing the show.
School Age (4-10)
Children enter another rapid stage of growth when they start school. Significant changes in physical, cognitive, social, and emotional development during this time are strongly impacted by children’s relationships with their parents and peers. Self-esteem and efficacy across domains also take on new importance, as children expand their experience, knowledge and relationships in the world outside of their immediate family.
Peers take on heightened importance during the school-age years. Children begin to have real friends (vs. mere playmates) and interactions with peers can influence all aspects of development. Through both friendships and conflict with peers, children learn leadership, communication, cooperation, and problem-solving skills. They learn how to read social situations and develop a repertoire of appropriate responses. Although adults are critical during this period, children’s own negotiations of group and relationship issues (from deciding who gets to go first to choosing how to respond when a classmate says: “you’re not my friend anymore!”) facilitate the development of information processing skills and behavioral repertoires that form the basis for future relationships.
One cannot discuss peer influence without highlighting the increase in aggression and bullying that occurs during middle-childhood and continues into the teenage years. Indeed, most children are involved at some time in some type of physical, verbal, or social aggression, with a portion of these children experiencing these things to an extreme degree. Advances in modern technology have also brought concerns about bullying and aggression to a whole new level, as children can now communicate immediately and even anonymously with hundreds if not thousands of other youth at a time. Subsequent surges in rumor-spreading, name-calling, insults, and other aspects of cyber-bullying have led to grave concerns about the mental health of children who are the victims of these activities, including a number of suicides that have been directly linked to these behaviors.
Outside of social networking, the setting where most children experience intensive socialization experiences is school. As we all know, schools are not simply for “reading, writing and arithmetic,” but actually serve as a major formative experience in life. In addition to social development, school is a setting where children begin to develop a sense of themselves as valuable and valued contributors with a range of competencies. It is critical that parents support this development by establishing a home environment that promotes the importance of learning, and continually engaging their child in discussion about school life.
Given the developmental need for self-efficacy, friendship and affiliation, and social and emotional processing skills during the school-age years, how might taking part in reality television shows relate to development during this life stage?
Unlike situations with child actors and performers who often receive their schooling from and on-set tutor, children in reality television shows spend much of their time at the family home (which is now also the “workplace”) and continue to attend their local school. However, this might not be true in the case where children travel to take part in reality shows centered on competitions, take trips relate to the television show during the academic year, or are removed from public school due to social problems or concerns about safety, stemming from the increasingly public nature of their lives.
In general, it is critical that children maintain a consistent routine that minimizes any disruption in school attendance and related activities. Even if a child is maintaining their academic achievement, if they are not experiencing the other social-emotional benefits of the school-setting (such as learning to interact with peers, participating in a range of activities, developing a sense of their relative strengths and achievements) then their developmental needs can be compromised. If this cannot be met through traditional schooling, care must be taken to meet these varied needs elsewhere, for example through enrolling students in community clubs or sports teams.
In addition to ensuring that the range of physical, cognitive, and social experiences typically provided in the school setting are met, school should continue to serve as a major factor in the lives of children in television. Although children on reality shows might be distracted by the myriad of people and activities in their household and related to the show in general, it is critical that they have established study times, clear bedtimes on school nights, and encouragement and emphasis on the value and importance of school.
Normative social development might also be compromised for children on reality television shows due to the lack of privacy related to family life. Home for children should serve as a “safe haven” where children can process their experiences in the outside world, enjoy one-on-one time with parents and siblings, and rest and rejuvenate for the next day. While children on reality television shows might be able to achieve this, it would seem that this could only be done through a strong commitment to have the cameras around only for limited and structured time periods, with sufficient time for the family to interact in private and for children to do homework, bathe and sleep without disruption. In other words, a clear delineation should be made between “house as home” and “house as workplace.”
Ironically, as the lives of reality show participants become more public, they might actually become or feel more isolated. Thus, as family outings to the grocery store become an event featured on the evening entertainment news and personal conversations with friends and family members end up on the covers of magazines, these families can find themselves increasingly isolated from friends, family, and even the ordinary activities of daily living. Thus, just when children are exploring the outside world and learning how to form new relationships, they can be bombarded with experiences that betray their trust and stymie their growth as individuals in society.
A final issue related to this lack of privacy is that of cyberspace. We live in an increasingly public world where blogs, celebrity gossip sites and other electronic venues for commentary, speculation, and judgment are prolific. Even mainstream online news publications often have a section after each article where readers can anonymously post their opinions and views of the story and the people in it. Thus, not only are children in the public eye subject to the same pressures and situations of their non-public peers, they are also subject to the constant commentary and views of a society where sharing your opinions is the norm and where strangers might feel justified in sharing their views on issues related to family members or the family’s choice to be in the public eye. The public might also view the family as distant, unreal, and even immune to their scrutiny, thus increasing their willingness to say whatever is on their minds, regardless of the impact on the family. This problem can become even more profound during the adolescent years, which I will discuss now.
Adolescence (>10)
Mere mention of the term “teenager” can conjure up images of youth and families in turmoil. Thus, dramatic physical, cognitive, and social changes can lead to an increase in high-risk behavior, mental health problems, and family conflict. First, the onset of sexual maturation puts adolescents at a critical stage of life physically. Physical changes combined with a peak in the importance of peer judgment and acceptance can then set the stage for distress over personal attributes, such as body image, which can lead to the development of eating disorders or steroid use.
Cognitively, the part of the brain related to higher-order thinking and planning is continuing to develop during adolescence. Consequently, teenagers who desire or are given greater responsibility and independence are not yet fully equipped to make optimal decisions on their own. As such, it is critical that adults help adolescents think through life choices and experiences, while not stripping them of their autonomy.
Finally, adolescence is considered a critical time for identity development where youth must develop a sense of themselves both as individuals and in relation to others, as well as a larger understanding of their “place in the world.” While most youth remain connected to the values and beliefs of their parents throughout adolescence, the striving for independence and the increase in peer influence requires a delicate balancing act on the part of both parents and teens.
Given the many changes that take place during adolescence and the developmental need to form a sense of oneself, one’s relationships with others and one’s place in the world, how might taking part in reality television shows relate to adolescent developmental needs?
When considering the roles, rules, and responsibilities related to children in reality television, we often put teenagers in a category more in line with adults. Thus, we tend to place decision-making authority in the hands of the teen and parental involvement becomes less paramount. This is parallel to other aspects of life, my own field included, where circumstances can allow for teens to make decisions about their own medical care, for example. Although parents are often involved, it is generally believed that teenagers are more advanced than younger children in terms of their abilities, rights, and responsibilities. However, the developmental needs and capabilities of adolescence highlights the need to carefully consider this approach.
First, our knowledge of cognitive development tells us that adolescents make better decisions in collaboration with adults than they do on their own. This might be particularly relevant in the case of reality television, where a teenager might be enamored by the idea of being in the public eye, while not having the foresight to recognize the potential long-term consequences. For example, the increased public scrutiny discussed earlier can be even more pronounced and more devastating during the teenage years. Thus, not only do these teens live with the pressure and judgment of their friends and classmates, but they also receive judgment and commentary from complete strangers across the nation, or even the world. In such an environment, important areas of vulnerability during adolescence—such as self-esteem and body image—can be exponentially magnified.
Even if teens on television are able to escape negative attention from the public, they might be impacted in other ways by the reality that fame brings them and their family. Increased narcissism (“Everybody cares about me and what I’m doing.”; already a common characteristic of adolescence), difficulty with trust (“Is she my friend because I’m on TV or because she really likes me?”), and a confused sense of one’s place in the world (“Who am I outside of this show and what do I do when the show ends?”) might each be outcomes for adolescents living in the public eye.
In conclusion, it is clear that the cognitive, social and emotional needs across the different phases of childhood require that we as adults take great care in establishing an environment that helps promote positive development and prevent negative outcomes in all children. In terms of reality television, specifically, children do not have the experience or skills to deal with the additional decisions and repercussions of living in the public eye that we as adults do (or should). Further, the nature of television—to entertain—is such that the families that are chosen to appear in reality television programs are often from high risk groups to begin with, e.g., families with children who are exhibiting significant behavior problems, homes with a parent who is a celebrity prior to the show, or families with a large number of children. Thus, it is imperative that we build protective factors – including mechanisms to promote close family relationships, positive peer interactions, and a strong education – into the structure of these children’s lives, so as to minimize risk and optimize positive development.
Although one might not say conclusively that children should or should not participate in reality shows or television in general, if these shows are to take place, great care should be taken to produce them in such a way that puts the developmental needs of children and adolescents first.
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Good morning, and thank you for the opportunity to speak with you about the involvement of children in reality television shows. I am a Licensed Psychologist in the state of Pennsylvania with my masters and doctoral degrees in Clinical Psychology and a specialization in children and families. I am currently an Assistant Professor of Psychology in the Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences at Gwynedd-Mercy College. Prior to my current position, I was a research fellow at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, with a grant from the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development to design an intervention to promote positive identity development in high-risk youth. I am here today to speak about the developmental needs of children, with the hope that understanding these needs will inform decision-making as it relates to children’s participation in television, and reality shows, in particular.As those of you who are parents, grandparents, teachers or coaches know, physical, cognitive, social and emotional capabilities are rapidly changing from the point of birth into adulthood. As such, developmental needs also change as children age. To this point, I will be framing my discussion around the basic developmental tasks at different ages and then connect these tasks with the “realities,” if you will, of reality television.
Infancy and Early Childhood (birth – 3)
In the first few years of life, small children are learning to explore and interact with the world around them. Critical to this task are the social relationships children form with their primary caretakers. Specifically, children develop early attachment to their parents that allow them to safely and comfortably explore their world. Securely attached children are those who have learned that their primary caregiver will be there consistently; a securely attached child can trust that even when mom leaves the room or is out of sight, she will reliably be there to respond to his needs. Children whose caregivers are unreliable, inconsistent or abusive develop early problems with attachment that relate to a number of negative long-term outcomes. As such, stable and reliable care is critical to the development of strong emotional bonds that can form the basis for future success.
In addition to forming emotional bonds with their caretakers, small children also learn how to communicate and regulate their emotions through referencing their caretakers. For example, a child who is trying to understand how to act in a situation that is new or ambiguous will look to those around her to learn how she should respond. Indeed, this is why experienced parents know not to scream, “Oh no!” and look panicked when a child falls down!
Finally, young children are beginning to learn how to control their own behavior. Over time, parental expectations are internalized and even when the primary caregivers are not around children will follow the rules established in the home. Critical to this learning is the interaction between parent and child. Just as with attachment and emotional development, rule-based learning requires consistent parental feedback and ongoing, mutual interactions between parent and child.
Given the developmental need for consistent and reliable parent-child interaction during the early years, how might taking part in reality television shows relate to child development?
First, one often hears parents of children in reality television shows indicating that the purpose of their participation is to support the family in a way that allows the parents to stay home with the children vs. working outside of the home. Parents might also feel that the show provides opportunities for children to explore the world in a way that the family would not have been able to afford before, such as family vacations and other child-friendly activities. Indeed, this might be a very real and notable benefit of such a lifestyle.
On the other hand, the quality and format of the increases in “family time” must also be considered. For example, a parent’s ability to form a stable attachment with his child might be challenged by the realities of a family life made public. Increased demands from the general public, the need to travel for the show, and the general disruption in everyday activities related to the television show can interfere with the caregivers’ ability to provide consistent, reliable and responsive care. Of course this is a concern of any family with parents that might travel for work or otherwise have a career that is outside of typical work parameters. However, the all-encompassing nature of reality television and the constant public demands of celebrity families can blur the line between work and home and make these concerns more acute and pervasive for families featured in reality television.
Further blurring this line is the presence of cameras, microphones, and production people into the family home. This necessity of reality television has the potential to create an atmosphere that challenges the child’s need for consistency both in terms of parents’ time as well as routine, rules and expectations. Although reality television show families are depicted as going about “life as usual,” those who make decisions related to production (e.g., taping schedules, number of cameras, rules regarding when cameras will be turned on/off) must recognize that these factors also become aspects of the children’s daily lives and can interfere greatly with the normal routine and expectations of a household, particularly if not closely regulated.
On a related note, the role of the individuals behind the camera can be confusing to children and provide them with inconsistent feedback on their own behavior as well as their general schema of appropriate social interactions. For example: Do cameramen laugh with children when something is funny? Correct incorrect grammar? Pick them up when they fall? One must also take care to determine how inappropriate behaviors that might make “better television” are encouraged or discouraged by either parents or the individuals involved in producing the show.
School Age (4-10)
Children enter another rapid stage of growth when they start school. Significant changes in physical, cognitive, social, and emotional development during this time are strongly impacted by children’s relationships with their parents and peers. Self-esteem and efficacy across domains also take on new importance, as children expand their experience, knowledge and relationships in the world outside of their immediate family.
Peers take on heightened importance during the school-age years. Children begin to have real friends (vs. mere playmates) and interactions with peers can influence all aspects of development. Through both friendships and conflict with peers, children learn leadership, communication, cooperation, and problem-solving skills. They learn how to read social situations and develop a repertoire of appropriate responses. Although adults are critical during this period, children’s own negotiations of group and relationship issues (from deciding who gets to go first to choosing how to respond when a classmate says: “you’re not my friend anymore!”) facilitate the development of information processing skills and behavioral repertoires that form the basis for future relationships.
One cannot discuss peer influence without highlighting the increase in aggression and bullying that occurs during middle-childhood and continues into the teenage years. Indeed, most children are involved at some time in some type of physical, verbal, or social aggression, with a portion of these children experiencing these things to an extreme degree. Advances in modern technology have also brought concerns about bullying and aggression to a whole new level, as children can now communicate immediately and even anonymously with hundreds if not thousands of other youth at a time. Subsequent surges in rumor-spreading, name-calling, insults, and other aspects of cyber-bullying have led to grave concerns about the mental health of children who are the victims of these activities, including a number of suicides that have been directly linked to these behaviors.
Outside of social networking, the setting where most children experience intensive socialization experiences is school. As we all know, schools are not simply for “reading, writing and arithmetic,” but actually serve as a major formative experience in life. In addition to social development, school is a setting where children begin to develop a sense of themselves as valuable and valued contributors with a range of competencies. It is critical that parents support this development by establishing a home environment that promotes the importance of learning, and continually engaging their child in discussion about school life.
Given the developmental need for self-efficacy, friendship and affiliation, and social and emotional processing skills during the school-age years, how might taking part in reality television shows relate to development during this life stage?
Unlike situations with child actors and performers who often receive their schooling from and on-set tutor, children in reality television shows spend much of their time at the family home (which is now also the “workplace”) and continue to attend their local school. However, this might not be true in the case where children travel to take part in reality shows centered on competitions, take trips relate to the television show during the academic year, or are removed from public school due to social problems or concerns about safety, stemming from the increasingly public nature of their lives.
In general, it is critical that children maintain a consistent routine that minimizes any disruption in school attendance and related activities. Even if a child is maintaining their academic achievement, if they are not experiencing the other social-emotional benefits of the school-setting (such as learning to interact with peers, participating in a range of activities, developing a sense of their relative strengths and achievements) then their developmental needs can be compromised. If this cannot be met through traditional schooling, care must be taken to meet these varied needs elsewhere, for example through enrolling students in community clubs or sports teams.
In addition to ensuring that the range of physical, cognitive, and social experiences typically provided in the school setting are met, school should continue to serve as a major factor in the lives of children in television. Although children on reality shows might be distracted by the myriad of people and activities in their household and related to the show in general, it is critical that they have established study times, clear bedtimes on school nights, and encouragement and emphasis on the value and importance of school.
Normative social development might also be compromised for children on reality television shows due to the lack of privacy related to family life. Home for children should serve as a “safe haven” where children can process their experiences in the outside world, enjoy one-on-one time with parents and siblings, and rest and rejuvenate for the next day. While children on reality television shows might be able to achieve this, it would seem that this could only be done through a strong commitment to have the cameras around only for limited and structured time periods, with sufficient time for the family to interact in private and for children to do homework, bathe and sleep without disruption. In other words, a clear delineation should be made between “house as home” and “house as workplace.”
Ironically, as the lives of reality show participants become more public, they might actually become or feel more isolated. Thus, as family outings to the grocery store become an event featured on the evening entertainment news and personal conversations with friends and family members end up on the covers of magazines, these families can find themselves increasingly isolated from friends, family, and even the ordinary activities of daily living. Thus, just when children are exploring the outside world and learning how to form new relationships, they can be bombarded with experiences that betray their trust and stymie their growth as individuals in society.
A final issue related to this lack of privacy is that of cyberspace. We live in an increasingly public world where blogs, celebrity gossip sites and other electronic venues for commentary, speculation, and judgment are prolific. Even mainstream online news publications often have a section after each article where readers can anonymously post their opinions and views of the story and the people in it. Thus, not only are children in the public eye subject to the same pressures and situations of their non-public peers, they are also subject to the constant commentary and views of a society where sharing your opinions is the norm and where strangers might feel justified in sharing their views on issues related to family members or the family’s choice to be in the public eye. The public might also view the family as distant, unreal, and even immune to their scrutiny, thus increasing their willingness to say whatever is on their minds, regardless of the impact on the family. This problem can become even more profound during the adolescent years, which I will discuss now.
Adolescence (>10)
Mere mention of the term “teenager” can conjure up images of youth and families in turmoil. Thus, dramatic physical, cognitive, and social changes can lead to an increase in high-risk behavior, mental health problems, and family conflict. First, the onset of sexual maturation puts adolescents at a critical stage of life physically. Physical changes combined with a peak in the importance of peer judgment and acceptance can then set the stage for distress over personal attributes, such as body image, which can lead to the development of eating disorders or steroid use.
Cognitively, the part of the brain related to higher-order thinking and planning is continuing to develop during adolescence. Consequently, teenagers who desire or are given greater responsibility and independence are not yet fully equipped to make optimal decisions on their own. As such, it is critical that adults help adolescents think through life choices and experiences, while not stripping them of their autonomy.
Finally, adolescence is considered a critical time for identity development where youth must develop a sense of themselves both as individuals and in relation to others, as well as a larger understanding of their “place in the world.” While most youth remain connected to the values and beliefs of their parents throughout adolescence, the striving for independence and the increase in peer influence requires a delicate balancing act on the part of both parents and teens.
Given the many changes that take place during adolescence and the developmental need to form a sense of oneself, one’s relationships with others and one’s place in the world, how might taking part in reality television shows relate to adolescent developmental needs?
When considering the roles, rules, and responsibilities related to children in reality television, we often put teenagers in a category more in line with adults. Thus, we tend to place decision-making authority in the hands of the teen and parental involvement becomes less paramount. This is parallel to other aspects of life, my own field included, where circumstances can allow for teens to make decisions about their own medical care, for example. Although parents are often involved, it is generally believed that teenagers are more advanced than younger children in terms of their abilities, rights, and responsibilities. However, the developmental needs and capabilities of adolescence highlights the need to carefully consider this approach.
First, our knowledge of cognitive development tells us that adolescents make better decisions in collaboration with adults than they do on their own. This might be particularly relevant in the case of reality television, where a teenager might be enamored by the idea of being in the public eye, while not having the foresight to recognize the potential long-term consequences. For example, the increased public scrutiny discussed earlier can be even more pronounced and more devastating during the teenage years. Thus, not only do these teens live with the pressure and judgment of their friends and classmates, but they also receive judgment and commentary from complete strangers across the nation, or even the world. In such an environment, important areas of vulnerability during adolescence—such as self-esteem and body image—can be exponentially magnified.
Even if teens on television are able to escape negative attention from the public, they might be impacted in other ways by the reality that fame brings them and their family. Increased narcissism (“Everybody cares about me and what I’m doing.”; already a common characteristic of adolescence), difficulty with trust (“Is she my friend because I’m on TV or because she really likes me?”), and a confused sense of one’s place in the world (“Who am I outside of this show and what do I do when the show ends?”) might each be outcomes for adolescents living in the public eye.
In conclusion, it is clear that the cognitive, social and emotional needs across the different phases of childhood require that we as adults take great care in establishing an environment that helps promote positive development and prevent negative outcomes in all children. In terms of reality television, specifically, children do not have the experience or skills to deal with the additional decisions and repercussions of living in the public eye that we as adults do (or should). Further, the nature of television—to entertain—is such that the families that are chosen to appear in reality television programs are often from high risk groups to begin with, e.g., families with children who are exhibiting significant behavior problems, homes with a parent who is a celebrity prior to the show, or families with a large number of children. Thus, it is imperative that we build protective factors – including mechanisms to promote close family relationships, positive peer interactions, and a strong education – into the structure of these children’s lives, so as to minimize risk and optimize positive development.
Although one might not say conclusively that children should or should not participate in reality shows or television in general, if these shows are to take place, great care should be taken to produce them in such a way that puts the developmental needs of children and adolescents first.
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Monday, January 11, 2010
New Lives, New Loves?
A reader asked me if it's true Kate is dating a Reading Royal. I was unable to confirm this tidbit, but I have to admit it sounds somewhat far-fetched. I mean, hometown team rah rah rah and all that, but would Kate really settle for a Reading Royal? No matter how big the fish, Berks County seems to be way too small of a fishbowl for her taste. (What with the phony blonde hair extensions and all, could wrangling tickets to red carpet events with Hollywood B-listers be far behind?)
I also heard that Jon is staying in Utah with his new girlfriend Morgan Christie, 25, and her wealthy family, since he's been padlocked out of his NYC apartment. Also heard - disappointing news if it's true - Jon is negotiating with TLC to give them permission to tape the kids again, in exchange for having his monthly $10,000 child support payments reduced.
I am unclear on how Jon's child support payments would be related to any contract he negotiates with TLC. Why would the court lower his payments based on his working or not working out a new contract with TLC? The court is a legal entity and TLC is a commercial entity. So remember to take into consideration that this is just what I heard.
From my understanding Jon was locked out of his NYC apartment due to being unable to pay his rent. I still can't understand why Jon is paying child support payments instead of Kate. After all, she's the co-author or author of a couple of books, has had many more speaking engagements than he has over the years, and in general has made more money than Jon has all along. Good lord, at speaking engagements she charged $20 a piece for autographed photos. Is that highway robbery, or what? Plus she had the financial advantage in the past year of knowing more about their finances than Jon did, since handling the family finances has traditionally been her duty.
Speaking of Jon's apartment, reports are that he is accusing ex-girlfriend Hailey Glassman of being behind the ransacking. I always thought it sounded like someone who knew Jon and had a vendetta against him - an ordinary burglar wouldn't have left anything so personal as the butcher knife calling card. You know what they say - hell hath no fury like an ex-soulmate-Ed-Hardy-wearing-globe-trotting-girlfriend scorned.
Just when we thought the dust was settling...
I also heard that Jon is staying in Utah with his new girlfriend Morgan Christie, 25, and her wealthy family, since he's been padlocked out of his NYC apartment. Also heard - disappointing news if it's true - Jon is negotiating with TLC to give them permission to tape the kids again, in exchange for having his monthly $10,000 child support payments reduced.
I am unclear on how Jon's child support payments would be related to any contract he negotiates with TLC. Why would the court lower his payments based on his working or not working out a new contract with TLC? The court is a legal entity and TLC is a commercial entity. So remember to take into consideration that this is just what I heard.
From my understanding Jon was locked out of his NYC apartment due to being unable to pay his rent. I still can't understand why Jon is paying child support payments instead of Kate. After all, she's the co-author or author of a couple of books, has had many more speaking engagements than he has over the years, and in general has made more money than Jon has all along. Good lord, at speaking engagements she charged $20 a piece for autographed photos. Is that highway robbery, or what? Plus she had the financial advantage in the past year of knowing more about their finances than Jon did, since handling the family finances has traditionally been her duty.
Speaking of Jon's apartment, reports are that he is accusing ex-girlfriend Hailey Glassman of being behind the ransacking. I always thought it sounded like someone who knew Jon and had a vendetta against him - an ordinary burglar wouldn't have left anything so personal as the butcher knife calling card. You know what they say - hell hath no fury like an ex-soulmate-Ed-Hardy-wearing-globe-trotting-girlfriend scorned.
Just when we thought the dust was settling...
Friday, November 20, 2009
Ding Dong, the Show is Dead!
Ding dong, the show is dead.
This will give both Jon and Kate an opportunity to pursue whatever vocations they'd like to without involving the kids. Maybe Kate will get her own TV talk show. Who knows about Jon? Maybe he'll retreat into obscurity, where he's often wished he could escape back into. Or maybe he'll pursue some form of entertainment employment of his own (hopefully without collaborating with people like Michael Lohan ~ doesn't the fact that he is not a success and that his own very troubled daughter calls him a "scumbag" give you a clue?) Whatever. Now the kids have an opportunity for some privacy ~ and time and space for healing ~ during the rest of their childhoods.
The kids have never been old or mature enough to be capable of the level of informed consent their parents were. Later, in their adulthoods, if they want to go back into the entertainment business or even capitalize on the fame they once had as children, more power to them. But for now, let the kids be kids.
Good job Jon Gosselin!
This will give both Jon and Kate an opportunity to pursue whatever vocations they'd like to without involving the kids. Maybe Kate will get her own TV talk show. Who knows about Jon? Maybe he'll retreat into obscurity, where he's often wished he could escape back into. Or maybe he'll pursue some form of entertainment employment of his own (hopefully without collaborating with people like Michael Lohan ~ doesn't the fact that he is not a success and that his own very troubled daughter calls him a "scumbag" give you a clue?) Whatever. Now the kids have an opportunity for some privacy ~ and time and space for healing ~ during the rest of their childhoods.
The kids have never been old or mature enough to be capable of the level of informed consent their parents were. Later, in their adulthoods, if they want to go back into the entertainment business or even capitalize on the fame they once had as children, more power to them. But for now, let the kids be kids.
Good job Jon Gosselin!
Friday, October 9, 2009
Jon & Kate, Give This Some Consideration!
Love the new cover of O.K.! Magazine...Only problem is, it's way too late.
A Minor Consideration should have been called in as a consultant to the show a couple of years ago. A lot of heartache could have been prevented.
But it's still not too late. TLC, Jon, and Kate, call Paul Petersen, the head of AMC, now! He's an expert on child performers as well as having been one himself, and he's a heck of a nice guy besides.
There's still time to save these kids from further trauma and psychological damage.
In twenty years, when your kids are thanking you for their loving childhoods instead of suing you and crying about you on their therapists' couches, you'll be glad you did.
Thursday, August 27, 2009
Why Not?!?
http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=428392>1=28103
Why? Would there be something wrong with quitting? Don't you have enough money? Don't you want your children to go back to being themselves instead of going into ham mode whenever anyone's around? Don't you want the cameras, paparazi and critics to fade away? Don't you want to be able to go anywhere you want without people wanting something - autographs, pictures, scoops, fame - from you? Don't you want to be able to trust that your friends are really your friends and not just hanging around because you're (in)famous? Don't you want to be able to walk outside and relax without wondering if photogs are hiding in the bushes? Don't you want to have a life where your personal business is finally, once again, your own?
Why not?
Why? Would there be something wrong with quitting? Don't you have enough money? Don't you want your children to go back to being themselves instead of going into ham mode whenever anyone's around? Don't you want the cameras, paparazi and critics to fade away? Don't you want to be able to go anywhere you want without people wanting something - autographs, pictures, scoops, fame - from you? Don't you want to be able to trust that your friends are really your friends and not just hanging around because you're (in)famous? Don't you want to be able to walk outside and relax without wondering if photogs are hiding in the bushes? Don't you want to have a life where your personal business is finally, once again, your own?
Why not?
Sunday, August 16, 2009
Small Town Jon & Kate Gosselin ~ 3/20/09
March 20, 2009
Jon and Kate and their Eight are the talk of the town. They bought a house about two miles from me, from the obstetrician who delivered our firstborn. Sure, they have a long private gated driveway and according to their neighbors they keep them themselves, but they're still here.
Now, granted, talk of the town doesn't amount to much around here. Wernersville is about three blocks long, with one convenience store with gas pumps, a bakery, the library and the post office. Oh, and a really great gift shop that supports local crafters and artisans. We do boast three pizza shops, which are kept in the black by the developments which have sprung up around us thanks to influx from Phildelphia and other nearby cities. But generally speaking, this ain't no metropolis.
There are lots of tidbits about J&K on the Internet, including tons of haters. In fact there seem to be more haters than fans. Everybody has an opinion about the Gosselins, J&K's relationship, and their parenting. There are lots of online rumors. Jon and Kate are getting divorced. Jon and Kate are money hungry lazy bums. Jon and Kate plan to exploit their kids by making them into actors. Jon and Kate are exploiting their kids by having them grow up on camera. Kate's a bitch and Jon's whipped.Funny how we never hear positive rumors, isn't it? Just for once I'd like to hear "Jon and Kate have pledged to give half of their income to Big Brothers of America." "Kate does all her own housework." "Jon and Kate are big tippers." What is it about us that makes us so entranced with the dirt and so bored by the good stuff?
So far I haven't had a J&K spotting of my very own, but it's probably only a matter of time. We share the same post office and they have to gas up their cars somewhere. They must be hard to miss since they have cameras following them everywhere and everyone in camera shots has to sign permission slips to not be gray-blobbed out of the show. I'll keep you posted.
Blair said...
I think that the reason there are so many "haters" is that the rumors became so loud and great in number that it became hard to deny that something with that family isn't right. This is corroborated by their behavior on the show. I would love to hear a positive rumor, though. I truly hope and pray that the state of that family is not as it appears on screen.
March 20, 2009 8:07:00 PM EDT
Robin said...
You wanted to hear me rant and go all psycho, didn't you? Just admit it. I'm going to foil your evil plans, though. I'm going to be a real lady, and not go off on how the hell could insurance pay for infertility treatments for a couple who already have 2 kids, or how incredibly entitled they are, practically demanding help from everyone because they chose to have a bunch of kids. Lastly, I'll never ever point out that they were two losers going nowhere, and the only thing they have going for them is having a bunch of fetuses at the same time. Oh, man, am I nice.
March 20, 2009 11:29:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
When I hear a positive rumor I'll let you know. But so far, although I've heard things from several people in my community who have had various direct contacts with them, it's all nasty. Maybe some people have actually had pleasant contacts with them, and just choose to not share about them? (I'm a hopeless optimist, can't you tell? :)
March 20, 2009 11:32:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
Thanks Robin, I knew I could count on you to be a lady! We have to have breakfast so I can tell you all the shit that's been flyin'. We can trade horror stories.In all fairness, I don't watch the show, because I saw a couple in the beginning and thought they were boring. (I like all the dramatic women and gays over at Bravo. Now THAT'S good television, imo.) I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and actually watch some Jon and Kate for myself.
March 20, 2009 11:37:00 PM EDT
Wendy said...
I haven't seen the show yet. There is a family of 18?? or so that has a show near where I live in AR. I can't even imagine.Have you seen Small Town Snapshot Sunday? You might like that since you're living in a small town like me!
March 22, 2009 12:38:00 PM EDT
Deb said...
I have watched the show, and there is nothing positive to say about Jon and Kate...I would love to say that they have donated to different organizations, or charities, but the truth is they haven't....I would love to say Kate cleans her house, but, she doesn't, as a matter of fact she lies about the help she does have and get.IMHO, this show is based on lies...Oh wait, I do have something to say nice about Jon, he looks like a very good, and loving father, he takes time with his children, and he lets them be kids....which is really nice to see, as the boys are afraid to get dirty, what kid hates to get dirty let alone 3 boys??I am sorry Polly, the only reason why you have not heard anything positive about Kate, cause there is nothing positive to say about her...But this is just a tip, if I were her, I would be afraid, Easter is coming, and she looks like one big orange carrot, I wouldn't buy any bunnies for the kids if I were her!!!!
March 22, 2009 7:07:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
OMG Deb, that is hilarious! According to the locals, Kate manipulates to get everything fro free. A trustworthy source who works for the newspaper told me they were offered $100,000 to use Graco strollers for one season on the show but they turned it down because they got a better offer. She gets money for everything. it's all about product placement. So maybe she got free tanning from a local salon?A friend is coming to visit from ohio and we're going to go take ridiculous pictures of ourselves in front of their driveway. Come back the second week in April for the silliness. Maybe we'll get run off the property and start a riot...woohoooo!
March 22, 2009 7:53:00 PM EDT
Deb said... You are going into my favorites....I can't wait to see the pics...According to what I have heard, you just may be run off the property, You rebel.... Miss Katie Irene does nothing unless there is some monetary value attached to it....And it will go to the highest bidder, including her children (Now that is what I call a pimp)...She is one greedy something or other....If you ever watch the show, or reruns, you will hear the lies first hand, she and Jon must not speak often, of coarse I try not to speak to anyone that has taken my donuts and held them captive until I yelled uncle either....Jon obviously hasn't screamed uncle in terror long enough for her.However, Jon makes statements to the press, that does not coordinate with what Katie has to say, I am sure he gets in loads of trouble for that...LOLAnd now we know why his donuts are still being held hostage....And Kate wonders why Jon has to go out and get loaded and tell all the tales of living with Kate...It is either that or go to the nuthouse, and what is the press going to say about that??I can't wait to see the pics...I don't know if you figured it out or not, but, I have a little rebel in me also......
March 22, 2009 9:00:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
Deb, you heathen you! You guys all definitely bring out the devil in me. And I'm a likin' it!
March 22, 2009 9:51:00 PM EDT
Deb said...
LOL....My bad!!!!!Deb
March 22, 2009 10:05:00 PM EDT
Doreen Orion said...
I must say, I'm terribly proud of myself as I've never heard of them.
March 24, 2009 7:21:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
HI Doreen, you're not missing anything, believe me. It's GREAT to hear from you! I haven't been very inspired in BlogLand lately, but I have to pop over and say hi at your blog, and hear of your latest adventures.
March 28, 2009 1:03:00 PM EDT
Jon and Kate and their Eight are the talk of the town. They bought a house about two miles from me, from the obstetrician who delivered our firstborn. Sure, they have a long private gated driveway and according to their neighbors they keep them themselves, but they're still here.
Now, granted, talk of the town doesn't amount to much around here. Wernersville is about three blocks long, with one convenience store with gas pumps, a bakery, the library and the post office. Oh, and a really great gift shop that supports local crafters and artisans. We do boast three pizza shops, which are kept in the black by the developments which have sprung up around us thanks to influx from Phildelphia and other nearby cities. But generally speaking, this ain't no metropolis.
There are lots of tidbits about J&K on the Internet, including tons of haters. In fact there seem to be more haters than fans. Everybody has an opinion about the Gosselins, J&K's relationship, and their parenting. There are lots of online rumors. Jon and Kate are getting divorced. Jon and Kate are money hungry lazy bums. Jon and Kate plan to exploit their kids by making them into actors. Jon and Kate are exploiting their kids by having them grow up on camera. Kate's a bitch and Jon's whipped.Funny how we never hear positive rumors, isn't it? Just for once I'd like to hear "Jon and Kate have pledged to give half of their income to Big Brothers of America." "Kate does all her own housework." "Jon and Kate are big tippers." What is it about us that makes us so entranced with the dirt and so bored by the good stuff?
So far I haven't had a J&K spotting of my very own, but it's probably only a matter of time. We share the same post office and they have to gas up their cars somewhere. They must be hard to miss since they have cameras following them everywhere and everyone in camera shots has to sign permission slips to not be gray-blobbed out of the show. I'll keep you posted.
Blair said...
I think that the reason there are so many "haters" is that the rumors became so loud and great in number that it became hard to deny that something with that family isn't right. This is corroborated by their behavior on the show. I would love to hear a positive rumor, though. I truly hope and pray that the state of that family is not as it appears on screen.
March 20, 2009 8:07:00 PM EDT
Robin said...
You wanted to hear me rant and go all psycho, didn't you? Just admit it. I'm going to foil your evil plans, though. I'm going to be a real lady, and not go off on how the hell could insurance pay for infertility treatments for a couple who already have 2 kids, or how incredibly entitled they are, practically demanding help from everyone because they chose to have a bunch of kids. Lastly, I'll never ever point out that they were two losers going nowhere, and the only thing they have going for them is having a bunch of fetuses at the same time. Oh, man, am I nice.
March 20, 2009 11:29:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
When I hear a positive rumor I'll let you know. But so far, although I've heard things from several people in my community who have had various direct contacts with them, it's all nasty. Maybe some people have actually had pleasant contacts with them, and just choose to not share about them? (I'm a hopeless optimist, can't you tell? :)
March 20, 2009 11:32:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
Thanks Robin, I knew I could count on you to be a lady! We have to have breakfast so I can tell you all the shit that's been flyin'. We can trade horror stories.In all fairness, I don't watch the show, because I saw a couple in the beginning and thought they were boring. (I like all the dramatic women and gays over at Bravo. Now THAT'S good television, imo.) I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and actually watch some Jon and Kate for myself.
March 20, 2009 11:37:00 PM EDT
Wendy said...
I haven't seen the show yet. There is a family of 18?? or so that has a show near where I live in AR. I can't even imagine.Have you seen Small Town Snapshot Sunday? You might like that since you're living in a small town like me!
March 22, 2009 12:38:00 PM EDT
Deb said...
I have watched the show, and there is nothing positive to say about Jon and Kate...I would love to say that they have donated to different organizations, or charities, but the truth is they haven't....I would love to say Kate cleans her house, but, she doesn't, as a matter of fact she lies about the help she does have and get.IMHO, this show is based on lies...Oh wait, I do have something to say nice about Jon, he looks like a very good, and loving father, he takes time with his children, and he lets them be kids....which is really nice to see, as the boys are afraid to get dirty, what kid hates to get dirty let alone 3 boys??I am sorry Polly, the only reason why you have not heard anything positive about Kate, cause there is nothing positive to say about her...But this is just a tip, if I were her, I would be afraid, Easter is coming, and she looks like one big orange carrot, I wouldn't buy any bunnies for the kids if I were her!!!!
March 22, 2009 7:07:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
OMG Deb, that is hilarious! According to the locals, Kate manipulates to get everything fro free. A trustworthy source who works for the newspaper told me they were offered $100,000 to use Graco strollers for one season on the show but they turned it down because they got a better offer. She gets money for everything. it's all about product placement. So maybe she got free tanning from a local salon?A friend is coming to visit from ohio and we're going to go take ridiculous pictures of ourselves in front of their driveway. Come back the second week in April for the silliness. Maybe we'll get run off the property and start a riot...woohoooo!
March 22, 2009 7:53:00 PM EDT
Deb said... You are going into my favorites....I can't wait to see the pics...According to what I have heard, you just may be run off the property, You rebel.... Miss Katie Irene does nothing unless there is some monetary value attached to it....And it will go to the highest bidder, including her children (Now that is what I call a pimp)...She is one greedy something or other....If you ever watch the show, or reruns, you will hear the lies first hand, she and Jon must not speak often, of coarse I try not to speak to anyone that has taken my donuts and held them captive until I yelled uncle either....Jon obviously hasn't screamed uncle in terror long enough for her.However, Jon makes statements to the press, that does not coordinate with what Katie has to say, I am sure he gets in loads of trouble for that...LOLAnd now we know why his donuts are still being held hostage....And Kate wonders why Jon has to go out and get loaded and tell all the tales of living with Kate...It is either that or go to the nuthouse, and what is the press going to say about that??I can't wait to see the pics...I don't know if you figured it out or not, but, I have a little rebel in me also......
March 22, 2009 9:00:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
Deb, you heathen you! You guys all definitely bring out the devil in me. And I'm a likin' it!
March 22, 2009 9:51:00 PM EDT
Deb said...
LOL....My bad!!!!!Deb
March 22, 2009 10:05:00 PM EDT
Doreen Orion said...
I must say, I'm terribly proud of myself as I've never heard of them.
March 24, 2009 7:21:00 PM EDT
Werny Gal said...
HI Doreen, you're not missing anything, believe me. It's GREAT to hear from you! I haven't been very inspired in BlogLand lately, but I have to pop over and say hi at your blog, and hear of your latest adventures.
March 28, 2009 1:03:00 PM EDT
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